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Alright, so, something I've been talking about with my therapist a lot, but I thoughts folks out here could have interesting povs.

To sum it up, I'm constantly trying to act like a saint (figuratively, I'm an atheist). There's one exception to this, people holding power and making others miserable in any way.

But basically, you know, this whole mentality of banishing anger, jealousy, egoism, selfishness, greed, desire for power and authority and all that? That's me.

I don't mean I manage to do so constantly, but that's what I strive for.

One could think, and I did think, it was a desire for social praise. But really, when I get praised, which happen a lot, I don't care and that's more awkward that anything (like : woa dude, it's not the Oscars or something, chill out). And little by little, I started to think it didn't have much to do with being praised, that's just striving to live as I think it's better to live. To live a life I'll me content with when the grim reaper will come and all praises won't mean anything anymore.

My therapist thinks it's not really an issue as long as it doesn't cause myself pain (which it does because I'm deaf to my own needs 50% of the times).

But I don't see a satisfying way to live apart from that.

One potential misinterpretation I'd like to prevent. It's a very strong drive, but it doesn't make me blind. It really doesn't happen a lot but whenever I'm angry, I'm not feeling guilty. I know why I feel this, it's just that I didn't have any other way to manage a situation/feeling. I'll just strive to do better next time by trying to modify the situation so that anger will not be the most probable answer.

Do you find it weird? Anyone adopting this kind of behavior? Maybe everyone does. It may sound a bit megalomaniac, like hey I'm exceptional, but it really isn't what I mean. To my own eyes, I'm not a bad or a good person. I'm just trying to be what I want. If somebody tries to be someone different, it's all fine by me.

TL;DR : Is having high moral standards for one's self weird or toxic? Does my message actually sound megalomaniac?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (6 children)

You sound well adjusted.

I do one to probe one point, though… Coukd your motives for living this way be pride? A feeling that you being able to live up to your own (self-described as “high”) moral standards is something that makes you better than others?

The reason I ask: it’s not a bad thing to feel a sense of pride for having control over yourself, but it can be a weakness to obtaining true happiness because it also depends on the performance of other people. (If someone else exhibits more self-mastery than you, would that make you feel less happy about your own performance?)

If pride isn’t a factor, it sounds like you’re in a good spot.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with being a bit angry or jealous sometimes.

You shouldn't throw your rage at the people around you or let your actions be driven by anger alone. But there are a lot of things one can very justly be angry about. I would even argue that some things one should feel angry about. Like when someone is mistreated.

Denying yourself negative emotions is not entirely healthy in my opinion, it's more about the way you act on them (or don't act on them).

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I don't think I understand what you're talking about. Perhaps some examples would help.

I do think some people hold themselves to too low of a standard, though. There's a song I like that has the line "I don't want you to romanticize falling the fuck apart ". I think some people are just like "well, I ghosted my friend and didn't do my tasks at work and didn't feed my cat but life is hard am I right? No other way I could be. Time to go drink alone and watch TV"

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (5 children)

You may want to familiarize yourself with the philosophy of Stoicism. It sounds very similar to what you describe. I’d recommend starting with a “sampler” like “The Daily Stoic,” by Ryan Holiday. Epictetus and Marcus Auralius are two of the biggest names in terms of “fathers” of this philosophy.

Don’t go by whatever impression Hollywood or society may have left you with about the word “stoic.” It doesn’t mean “without emotion.”

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Archers: nervously laughing

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