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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

Only if they secede from the country

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

no one cares what that one dude in Sandwhich, Il thinks.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Then California splits into 20 states.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I fully expect the US to balkanize eventually.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Lol. Let them.

Grafton NH 2: Electric Boogaloo.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Weirdly reassuring reminder of their incompetence, not gonna get complacent tho.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (7 children)

And give them 2 more senators?

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The only way you can do that is if Congress signs off on it.

Every other state has an incentive not to permit that, because then that state gets two senators of its own.

Congress has only ever permitted a state to split a single time -- West Virginia from Virginia, during the American Civil War, where West Virginia was willing to side with the Union, and contained some militarily-important rail and water infrastructure.

Texas also negotiated the right to have the ability to split into five states if it wanted down the line at the time it joined, but I recall reading that it was considered to no longer be an exerciseable option after the American Civil War.

EDIT:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admission_to_the_Union

Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1:

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.[4]

EDIT2: Correction; Kentucky was also split from Virginia and Maine from Massachusetts. The Kentucky split happened before the US Constitution was ratified. Maine was part of the Missouri Compromise, to keep slave and free states in balance when Missouri joined as a slave state.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Maine used to be part of Massachusetts until the Missouri compromise.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Tennessee split from North Carolina. Georgia split off Mississippi and Alabama

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Creating new states from territory that nominally belonged to an existing state (in the sense of claiming everything west of their established territory) but was actually unexplored frontier was a little different than carving a chunk out of an existing state with fully-established borders after the fact.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Only if we combine the Dakotas and New Illinois gets the senators from that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Let's split California into 3 while we're at it.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

Fuck it at this point. Won't matter when you're paying those 40% tariffs. Everyone will be poor but the already rich.

[–] [email protected] 274 points 1 month ago (9 children)

They will never survive without Chicago. Rightwingers are the biggest welfare queens in America.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Hey, that’s not fare to welfare queens.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Ha, good luck.

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