His Dark Materials was like this. The Golden Compass was poorly reviewed, and I'm glad that the TV series were made.
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TV series too? Altered Carbon seasons 2 & 3 please!
Downsized.
Actually use the cool idea of a dystopian future so expensive, it's more economical to shrink down to the size of a GI Joe and ditch the romcom shit.
I think the main thing here is that the original was such a flop that they don't want to repeat the error.
It's a hard sell to take an unsuccessful film (with admittedly a good underlying story/concept), and then convince the suits that this time will be different because reasons.
When they can remake an old hit, even if it's done poorly, most people will want to see it for themselves, if for no other reason than to join in on the chorus of hate. Those ticket sales are still sales. So whether people like it or not, they stand a good chance to turn a reasonable profit.
Meanwhile, films that did poorly, whether due to script issues, or poor execution of the underlying material or whatever, people will be more willing to let it pass them by unless they have it on his authority that it's good. Of course, not everyone will think this way, but it's the basis for judgement for most.
Additionally, by remaking a movie they can renew their copyright on the film, which is why, I believe that many of the older films are getting unnecessary remakes and sequels. Even if it's bad, it locks them in on copyrights for a while longer; so if they want to continue to profit from the property, whether through licensing, promos, merchandise, whatever, they can. The base point being: does anyone want to license this property? If not, the suits wouldn't care as much if the copyright expires.
Think about something like star wars. It had a pretty strong following at the first three films, even decades after the release, it was very likely that there were ongoing licensing deals. So to renew the copy rights, they remastered and rereleased it to theatres. Even if it flopped, it would have ensured they can continue their licensing deals for years to come. Since it didn't, they decided instead to expand the franchise and see if they can get more money from it, and they did. Which is how we ended up with the sequels and several spin off shows.
Simply put, it's just too risky to invest more money into properties to renew copyright when there's no interest in licensing the content in the first place. Many of the production companies are happy to let a property rot while they're collecting paycheques on licensing. It's all about the numbers.
Ghost in the Shell was good, change my mind.
I can't tell if op is talking about the original or the live-action remake
Yeah, I'm not sure what OP is referring to.
Maybe they mean that ghost in the shell didn't need a remake, but they did it anyways?
Can we please get an actually good rendition of Battlefield Earth? The travesty that doesn't exist just...no.
And give the Bank of Scientology more money? No thanks.
I get it, but I still adore that book either way. It isn't going to stop me wanting to see a well played Jonnie Goodboy Tyler and Terl. Orson Scott Card is an asshole too, but I still enjoy reading some of his books.
It's morbin' time
I'd like that
The dark tower
eragon
the hobbit
fantastic 4
I don't understand why they didn't do The Hobbit first.
If you expected LOTR quality from the hobbit, that's simply never going to happen. Watch the LOTR behind the scenes...movies will never be made in that fashion ever again and it's very sad
Please could you briefly explain why?
Well basically, that's not how you make money. You don't need this level of effort to pull big viewership anymore. You can just use CGI etc etc to cut costs. Honestly just watch the LOTR behind the scenes, it made me sad that such production is never going to happen again.
There are still filmmakers making real art, but not at such a large scale as LOTR. We still have David Lynch, and Robert Eggers is making modern masterpieces, but such guys aren't going to be given the money and resources to make something as epic as LOTR. That era of filmmaking is gone and probably never going to return.
I didn't mind the dark tower movie before since I knew nothing about the book series. I'm on Wizard and Glass now though and in hindsight... That movie was absolute trash and pretty offensive to the fanbase.
OH MY GOD YES. Let's see, They Live (I actually really liked that one), Re-animator, Howard the Duck, and grave encounters series
Would love to see a full-on MCU Howard Free Duck movie!
Or yknow just come up with original material
If you only want original material you need to go back in time several thousand years to when that's still existed.
I hear what your saying. You are correct. Buuuut, I agree with OP too.
Arguably, I would say do both. Partly for the academic side and partly because a lot of ideas exist that could do with some TLC.
A version of After Earth that's less awkward maybe?
I recently saw Iron Mask, a not amazing martial arts movie where Jackie Chan fights Arnold Schwarzenegger. That's the best part of the movie by far but if you could do more with that as an idea? Especially paying for more than one fight scene.
Though, struggling to think of examples as my movie knowledge isn't too extensive. And it can be tricky to deal with 'didn't work but had potential' and 'cult classic/niche appeal'. Like I think the Five Nights At Freddie's movie is a mess but a really entertaining mess that I'm not certain how to 'fix' without removing from the gonzo camp they landed on, that I then liked.
YES!
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