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I read a Reddit (through RDX mind you) post the other day that included the Who we serve page from the democrats' website. The user noted that men were not on that list and pointed it out as on of the reasons Kamala Harris had lost. Meaning the Democratic Party should pander to the white young men demographic as well. A link to the post (through RDX)

I keep seeing this sentiment over and over again on social media. And I can't help but make the analogy to the "All lives matter." as opposed to "Black Lives matter." Am I wrong to think this? I am not from the United States. Please don't bite my head off as this is no stupid questions.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I think it’s less that young white men actively supported Trump because the Dems didn’t pander to them, and more that young, upper-middle class, suburban white men were altogether uninspired to vote because in either scenario, they wagered they’d be okay.

The lesson seems to be a very clear and unfortunate rebuke of women as presidential candidates, but very specifically black women, as Harris seems to have gotten even less support in this demographic than Clinton did. It’s shameful, but I believe that if Newsom had been the nominee and ran a near identical campaign, Israel and all, that he’d likely be president elect today.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

I'm just gonna be blunt and accept the downvotes here:

All this "the Democrats failed because [blank]" arguments are just blame shifting. We all saw what Trump was about, what he did while in office, and especially what he did after he lost that office the first time. We all know what kind of threat Trump represents to the future of this country.

The fact that (up to) 15 million Democratic voters stayed home and/or voted 3rd party is a failure on our part to take that threat seriously.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (19 children)

The fact that (up to) 15 million Democratic voters stayed home and/or voted 3rd party is a failure on our part to not take that threat seriously.

But WHY?? This is the one thing I just can't wrap my head around. How were all those warnings and the fact Trump would run again not enough?? Understand that I am trying to make sense of this election from an outsiders perspective. But it feels like I'm trying to uncover a magic trick.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

We all saw what Trump was about, what he did while in office, and especially what he did after he lost that office the first time

It's worse than that though. He and those around him literally told everyone for years what they were going to do to subvert the process. At the start of the election he said he already has all the votes he needs, before voting even ended anywhere he said this. He outright announced he'd already subverted it and nobody who can called it out.

This isn't blame shifting, it's pure gaslighting.

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