this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2024
439 points (100.0% liked)

News

23287 readers
4439 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

The FDA has proposed removing oral phenylephrine, a common ingredient in over-the-counter cold medicines like NyQuil and Sudafed, due to evidence that it is ineffective as a nasal decongestant.

The proposal follows a unanimous vote by FDA advisers last year, and recent studies showing less than 1% of the drug is absorbed into the bloodstream when taken orally.

The public comment period ends on May 7, after which the FDA may finalize the ban.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

No worries, three months from now it'll all be back on the shelves again

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago

Something tells me the Trump Administration won't allow this ban to go through.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If you want some real solid advice: never buy the nasal spray that has phenylephrine. It may well be one of the most addictive substances man has ever made.

The pills do absolutely nothing. About once or twice a year I have to get the good stuff from the pharmacy, but I've refused to even buy the new stuff.

I can't help but feel like they could just put something in the regular Sudafed to make it not methy, but I took physics and not chemistry so idk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What do I use then? I'm already addicted to Oxymetazoline (Afrin) and I need a way out. I've tried Propylhexedrine (Benzedrex) but it works for all of 30 seconds before I'm congested again. Even quitting cold turkey didn't work. I went an entire year without any nasal spray, suffered through the rebound congestion for over a month and was in the clear for awhile... Until the congestion came back. I don't know what to do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I swear by this stuff and saline mist. You can use it as much as you want. It's the miracle nobody is willing to try.

The newer allergy medicine is good, but I think you have to take it for a couple of months before you really notice it. I like the generic Allegra from Costco.

And get some real Sudafed from the pharmacy. I do the generic 12 hour and split them in half (helps you from feeling queasy).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

It's a little weird the first couple times you do it, but holy shit is it the most effective way to deal with congestion for me, but a fucking long shot. For real, saline sinus rinse works like a fucking miracle

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

You can roll your own saline nasal rinse, but it takes a little care to get the salinity just right. And best to boil the water first in case of brain eating amoebas (seriously


not common, but very, very bad).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I can’t help but feel like they could just put something in the regular Sudafed to make it not methy

Sudafed is not "methy", but it can be used to make meth

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

That's what I meant by methy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is this the shit they started using when they started using the original stuff to make meth?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

By my understanding yes, pseudoephedrine was being used for meth so they put it behind the counter and the name brand "Sudafed" made a PE line that was this, phenylephrine, to stay over the counter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I like in the article how it says they'll get some time to reformulate, but if it doesn't work, they could just turn off the widget inserting it and bobs your uncle!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago

Fucking finally.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Interesting. I use phenylephrine pills (no other active ingredients) for nasal congestion every time I'm sick, and it has always worked very well for me

I do tend to be extra sensitive to most drugs though, so maybe that has something to do with it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Maybe for you it does, although you'd need to test with placebo to really know. It's amazing how much our minds can effect things if we expect things to change.

It could also be that your pills are a significantly higher dose. If 1% is absorbed orally, maybe that pill has 100x the dose required otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Sooo I see the thread is full of US people here and it's so strange. I don't have drug brand preferences. I go to my doctor, my doctor tells me what to take, I go to the pharmacy, they give it to me, and I take it as instructed.

Am I missing out on anything?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

These are over-the counter cough suppressants that you buy from the store without ever needing to see a doctor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I still usually call my doctor for OTC stuff, and if my doctor says I need it, insurance gets to pay for it. Going to the doctor usually saves me money. And if I schedule it during a workday, it's not my time going either but my employer's, if it even needs more than a phone consult.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Over here having your doctor would cost at least a $40 copay and wouldn't get insurance to pay

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Well look at fancy pants over here with a Doctor.

(Really here in Canada I have been without a Dr for about 9 years now, it sucks)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

You're missing out on a lot of ads telling you how much you need to ask your doctor for certain drugs. That's about it.

load more comments
view more: next ›