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The U.S., Israel’s top ally, said it instead hopes to broker a cease-fire and hostage-release agreement between Israel and Hamas, and envisions a wider resolution on the war sparked by the militant group’s Oct. 7 attack. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has called Hamas’ demands “delusional.”

Netanyahu also opposes Palestinian statehood, which the U.S. calls a key element in a broader vision for the normalization of relations between Israel and regional heavyweight Saudi Arabia. His Cabinet adopted a declaration Sunday saying Israel “categorically rejects international edicts on a permanent arrangement with the Palestinians” and opposes any unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state.

Netanyahu has vowed to continue the Gaza offensive until Israel achieves a “total victory” over the Hamas militant group and plans to expand it to Gaza’s southernmost city of Rafah, where more than half the enclave’s 2.3 million Palestinians have sought refuge.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The other word for "finish the job" is "Endlösung".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Eerily similar language being deployed...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I want to announce that on the beginning of Easter I will be president of the United States unless israel disbands.

I have set a deadline in advance which means I am justified and correct.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So sad how they almost put an end to this bloodbath back in the 90s but nationalism and propaganda had to ruin it all and now it’s even worse than it ever was before (not that before was any better)

It’s so horrific when ppl are demanding a ceasefire cuz this monstrosity, yet the UN and our govs couldn’t really care less cuz it’s not a first world country, being allies with Israel and capitalism as a whole. Makes a lot of ppl feel so powerless over this esp when countries like Ukraine are going through similar yet, are not willing to support the Palestinians over their struggles.

Just an awful and tragic situation tbh.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Just a really horrid situation. Israel has become its own Golem. Created to secure and defend an oppressed Jewish people, but then gone mad with its own bloodlust and violence and going on a murderous rampage. We just have to see if, like in the legend, anyone is able to stop it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Israel has become its own Golem.

Always has been.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

We just need like 10 trumpets yeah?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It's a ground rock type so just hit it with a hose

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I think you can destroy the symbol on the head too

[–] [email protected] 65 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Hard to believe there are still people out there saying this is justified...

Whike it's true that Hamas are by no means the good guys, Israel's response to the Hamas attacks is to literally pull a genocide by a different name.

What else do you call straight up bombing buildings and hospitals full of innocent people; sending out kill squads into the streets; destroying any and all infrastructure required to grow and preserve food, and to get potable water; and denying your victims any and all humanitarian aid. Even without the quotes from Netanyahu, Israel's actions say more than their words ever could.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Total War.

The term was coined by a general during the American Civil War and has been defined as "A war that is unrestricted in terms of the weapons used, the territory or combatants involved, or the objectives pursued, especially one in which the laws of war are disregarded."

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

Hamas was never anything but an excuse to get this rolling.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Is that different name ethnic cleansing? Forced migration? Holodomor? Nakba?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

by a different name

It's literally just genocide, cut and dry. (I do understand your point, just emphasizing my view).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Some kind of reaction was Legitimate, because the attack in Oct were terrible, but Israel went too far, and we’re way past equivalent response

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It should be pointed out that Israel is clearly NOT doing this in response to Oct 7th. Hamas was clearly responsible for Oct 7th, and Israel is clearly not attempting to retaliate against Hamas; bombing a building on the off chance that your enemy is within it isn't a counterattack, it's just terrorism, and repeating that action on the scale that Israel is repeating it is not a war, it's genocide.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

No you don’t understand, hummus was in the Belgian building

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, that's not ominous phrasing at all.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

When somebody shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Total victory sounds like a final solution.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Totalen Krieg

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Bibi, the IDF and zionists are so far down the rabbit hole they can't see the similarities.

On another note I just rewatched Welcome to Sarajevo. It was like watching video of Gaza. :(

"Don't, don't, don't live under this dream that the West is going to come in and sort this problem out. Don't dream dreams."

Nothing has changed. I doubt it ever will.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A final solution to the Hamas problem, what could go wrong?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Plenty of Israeli government members talk about the "Palestinian problem", not the "Hamas problem".

It's quite consistent with how they say palestinians are "violent" and "human animals", which is the normal way racists look at other etnicities: as adversaries, all the same, bad and inferior, because of their race, all to blame for any bad actions of other people from the same etnicity.

The violence against Palestinians is as it is because of the profound racism that has been cultivated in Israel to justify the stealing of Palestinian land and all manner of inhuman actions against Palestinians to suppress their revolt against it: it's not seen as inhuman when people believe the victims are all the same, all enemies and all "animals".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Retired general Benny Gantz, part of Netanyahu’s three-member War Cabinet, represents an influential voice but not the final word on what might lie ahead.

As cease-fire negotiations struggle after signs of progress in recent weeks, Netanyahu has called demands by Gaza’s ruling Hamas militant group “delusional.”

But Netanyahu opposes Palestinian statehood, which the U.S. calls a key element in a broader vision for normalization of relations between Israel and regional heavyweight Saudi Arabia.

The suggested timing for the offensive came as the World Health Organization chief said southern Gaza’s main medical center, Nasser Hospital, “is not functional anymore” after Israeli forces raided it in Khan Younis last week.

In Gaza City, which suffered widespread destruction early in the war, an airstrike flattened a home, killing seven people, including three women, according to relative Sayed al-Afifi.

The U.S. Central Command said it conducted five self-defense strikes Saturday against cruise missiles and drones in area of Yemen controlled by the Iranian-backed Houthi rebel group.


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