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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Here's a documentary about the monkeys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkLeto3RZrk

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

This was a report for Trump supporters about how Donald xweets.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

That research is worst type of reddit ACKCHYUALLY taken to academia

I fear the plague of reddit brainrot will soon make even research papers plain insufferable. Would you want to have moderator of 11 subreddits and holder of top 1% commenters achievement in your research group?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Something weird I've been noticing. Lately I've been unintentionally minimizing comments before I've finished reading them. Just happened with yours. It's like some subconscious part of my brain goes "booorrring!" half way through reading anything longer than two sentences and immediately goes for the next dopamine kick.

And I'm not knocking your comment. I was genuinely interested in what I was reading. It's just a little troubling. I dropped Reddit and Lemmy a while back because I felt like I was becoming addicted. I lasted a few months, but evidently I've fallen off the wagon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Don’t worry I actually nurture my internet presence to be a little controversial and edgy. Not for every taste but those who enjoy we instantly are friends. It’s a filter of sorts. I want ppl who feel offended about such things to block me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Actually, we should be thankful for their divine presence.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Just thinking at a high level, an infinite number of monkies should hypothetically almost instantly produce Shakespeare (or at least as quickly as they can type)

Conversely, 1 monkey would eventually produce it given infinity time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So as weird as it sounds not all infinities are equal. For example there is an infinite set of odd numbers. That set will never include the number 2 though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

OK but what if we had one monkey typing away for every real number between zero and one?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Two is the loneliest number?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

One monkey may never produce it even given infinite time. It could just produce an infinite string of the letter a and never change it's mind. That's less likely that it writing hamlet, or even many hamlets... But nonetheless, it could. In fact all of the infinite monkeys could do that. If you repeated the experiment and infinite number of times, it's likely that one of them will simple produce an infinite number of infinite strings of only the letter A. Or, idk, ASCII art.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's why a monkey is used in the thought experiment. Monkeys do think at a low level. As it goes insane over centuries of imprisonment in front of its jailer, it's likely going to try complex solutions to get out. Think of the hell infinity would really be for this monkey.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yes, and given infinite monkeys no doubt they will eventually evolve into something that allows them to escape!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is the same type of criticism the paper made. The real intent behind the saying is given random output (where all outputs have nonzero probability) eventually you will create anything/everything.

Its a thought experiment around infinity, probability, and art.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I haven't read whatever paper this is talking about, but I imagine, it's looking at the saying in a more literal fashion for the sake of argument...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

1 monkey would likely die before producing Shakespeare

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

not if it’s an infinite monkey

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Well, an infinite amount would.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

oh absolutely, this is purely a thought experiment of course.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They already have, we evolved from a species you could colloquially refer to as monkeys. The ancestors of those monkeys went on to write Shakespeare

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

We evolved from the same species as monkeys did, not from monkeys. They weren't actually monkeys until they were already very far removed from us. However, given that we are apes and thus there was at some point a human ancestor species that was ape and was not human the rest of that is right. Off the top of my head that species would probably be our last common ancestor with other apes. Edit: typo, I had spelt monkeys as monkies

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

See definition for colloquial

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know what colloquial means, but apes cannot be colloquially referred to as monkeys. They are to far removed. You are confusing something being colloquial with something being a common misconception, that many people do not understand taxonomy at a middle school level does not make it a correct statement. Also, colloquial generally refers to how "proper" the language is being spoken (including the usage of slang and stuff like that), and not the factual correctness of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Keep coping

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