This hits a lot worse after JD Vance became Vice-Pres Elect
this post was submitted on 01 Nov 2024
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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
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Ok now where does this fit on my red string chart that links david gerard to X Æ A-Xii/Techno Mechanicus
JD Vance is probably among us as we speak. He could be any username…
Is he you?
I wish, but no.
Downvoting because this is a link to Reddit instead of the original source.
The point was SSCers reacting. Vance being an SSCer isn't notable as he's a Thiel creature. SSCers being confronted with the eyeshadowed mirror that is Vance is much more interesting because they spend a lot of time being nominally not exactly what Vance is.
Downvoting because you are a dorkus
your lack of situational awareness is alarming. stop driving, grab a coffee, put your feet up, and take a moment to actually fucking look at what you replied to
it may help
The situation is that we should always link to the source, not to another aggregator. This decreases the odds of it becoming a dead link. And that's before even dealing with the issue that people here are typically explicitly avoiding Reddit.
Then add in that the linked video is a full 3 hours of a Joe Rogan video and no time stamp was provided to tell us what we should be looking for. I'd downnvote a second time just for that if I could.
The problem isn't me, it's a lack of awareness on your part.
the problem is that you post things here, though i guess that by the time i'm commenting it has been alleviated.
Look who AIs self confidence was modeled after.
this has me howling with laughter, thanks
holy fuck how are you like this
"is it me, driveby poster, that is wrong? no, it must be everyone else who knows the sub that's wrong"
like the thing I can’t figure out is, what in the fuck did they think we were quoting and reacting to?
actually nah I can figure it out, they saw a link to reddit and decided they had a cake to shit on
and as everyone knows, you can’t cut off a cake shit mid-log
what I appreciate (inasfar as something to laugh at) is that when this is pointed out they double down like it's their life savings riding on the game
this isn’t wikipedia, and the point of this post was not in fact the thing you think it was, you utter and complete raging fuckwit
The point of this post is ssc. Not vance. The problem is you.
Sneerclub is a point and laugh at the radicalizing Rationlists place not complain about the gop place. (And if you dont know what that is read the rationalwiki (not related to the Rationalists) on lesswrong).
imagine our drivebys reading the description for the place they ~~drop one out~~ post in
difficulty: impossible
But the description is like 1/1024th of a ssc post. Who has time for that.
Or people could take away different things, especially since post-2014 (?) Scott approaches controversial issues much more cautiously and deliberately made known (Kolmogorov) that he was never going to fully honest around certain topics, inviting (deliberately or not, accurate or not) Straussian readings.
Ugh. These people seem sad and they make me sad.
What is controversial about Kolmogorov.
I'm pretty sure they're referencing an old ssc post on "kolmogorov complicity" - referencing the Soviet scientist who either spoke out against the purges and got gulag'd or who realized that they were bad but didn't say anything to avoid getting gulag'd and tried to protect his peers from the same fate. I forget if he was the example to follow or the counterexample, and I can't be arsed to look it up.
Now imagine if instead of a Soviet citizen trying to steer your people away from stalinism you were a fascist living in a broadly progressive culture looking to steer the world away from liberalism and towards Yarvin and friends. I try not to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole, but I'm not sure how Scott's output meaningfully differs from what such a person would write. Honestly if he hasn't written the kolmogorov complicity post outlining the whole concept I don't know if I'd be more or less inclined to think he's doing it actively.
Self-reply because a few hours later I could be arsed after all, and what I found was confusing.
To start with, this wasn't a scooter original; it was a response to a post by a different Scott A, and according to a very brief examination (I read both the Wikipedia article and the talk page) it looks like it's based on some questionable history. The story is that Andrey Kolmogorov kept quiet and used his influence to shelter Jewish academics and others from persecution under the purges. However, the most noteworthy example of his actions during the purges were his active testimony in the prosecution of his doctoral advisor, Nikolas Luzin. There's some ambiguity about why he participated but the two theories appear to be that the cops forced him to do it by blackmailing him about a (historically disputed/unconfirmed) gay relationship he was in or that the whole thing was driven by personal animosity between Luzin and his students. Notably after being convicted it seems like Luzin wasn't enough of a threat to Stalin to actually be properly disappeared or even fully removed from academia.
I don't know enough about the relevant history to make a reasonable determination as to who's right, but it's telling that neither story meaningfully supports the idea that the Scotts seem to be pitching of keeping your head down and muddling through to protect you and yours under authoritarianism. If that "Kolmogorov Option" exists it's only because you're in a decently liberal society. Otherwise the authoritarian power of the state will be used against you either for their own purpose or as a tool by whoever can catch their ear and doesn't like you, and all your attempts to avoid being the nail that sticks out will have been pointless.
If that “Kolmogorov Option” exists it’s only because you’re in a decently liberal society.
This would be very damning for what Scott is saying and implying here. (yes, im going a bit more conspiratorial here, esp considering his like of NRx (can't recall if the leaked emails are around this period, but I feel like they were a few years later)), but I doubt Scott did that much research or read that deeply into it.
In general I find the least charitable explanations of any of Alexander's behavior to be the most plausible
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