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The irony: This is basically what we have. When it comes to action, as senators, Kamala and Bernie voted the same way on most issues. Obviously, they are not the same people, but their viewpoints led to more or less the same voting actions.
elbow to the ribs on impact for extra points
slithering in outta nowhere!! BKO!!n
He leads others to a treasure he cannot possess.
Own that demagogue!
Not only that, but if this was 2016, Bernie’s win would have ensured trumpism didn’t happen.
SUPER FLY BERNIE SANDERS!!
Not a great comparison considering Superfly murdered his gf
I really don't get the "Bernie would have won" mentality. The biggest issues that people officially complain about when it comes to Harris is that she is 'going to bring about socialism'. He's actually a self described socialist flavor, and all the "moderates" who claim they are socially liberal but fiscally conservative would still let the moneyed interests win.
Same. He couldn't even win the primary but people are 100% sure he would have won the general
If they're going to use the label anyways then we might as well run an actual socialist.
I voted for Sanders in the 2016 primary. In hindsight, I think he would have suffered a political wipeout somewhere between Corbyn '19 and McGovern '72. There are shit-tons of oppo that Clinton (and Biden) never used against him, stuff that supporters can explain away in theory but sounds absolutely toxic to swing voters. Combine that with Trump getting the full backing of his right-wing base, corporate America, and a not-insignificant chunk of the more craven Democrats, and it would have been a total disaster.
"Fiscally conservative"... The thing that socialism is!
Many people who were going to vote for Bernie ended up voting for Trump. He most definitely would have fared better than an unlikable candidate if the DNC didn’t kneecap him.
Many people who were going to vote for Bernie ended up voting for Trump.
I don't think that's true. I don't see how anyone who saw themselves as principled supporters of Sanders could ever vote for Trump, they're diametrically opposed. They share nothing in common. The only people who voted that way weren't serious to begin with.
On the other hand, many of the people that voted for Bernie only voted for him because they hated Clinton and/or the wider Dem establishment, not because they supported his policies.
They were going to scream socialism/communism no matter what anyways.
fucking cubans
source : I have talked to cubans