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Arabic text on AOC campaign flyers is disconnected, printed backwards (www.newsweek.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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In case it wasn't already obvious, there clearly isn't a single Arabic speaker on AOC's team.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Libs here really do get pissed whenever you say anything bad about Kamala, shocking news libs a critique of Kamala isnt a support for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Their excuse is always "Trump is worse", which is not an excuse.

AOC's campaign team not having a single Muslim on it in New York City really undermines their claims of being the party of diversity.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the worst thing I've ever seen any political campaign ever do. I'm definitely voting for Trump now. He would never do that.

He knows how to appeal to both English speakers and ~~citizens of the Empire of Rome~~ Spanish speakers!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Full of mistakes is an understatement....That's not even Arabic.

This is what you get if you put the phrase "Vote by Tuesday, November 5th"

التصويت بحلول يوم الثلاثاء 5 نوفمبر

Whoever did this should be fired lol.

[+] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's a pretty loose definition of the Arabic language if I'm being honest. Even a 6 year old just learning to write Arabic would know better.

Either her campaign got screwed over by some Arabic speaking Republican or someone who wanted to discredit her because of the whole Gaza issue.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Either her campaign got screwed over by some Arabic speaking Republican or someone who wanted to discredit her because of the whole Gaza issue.

I think it’s more likely that the text was translated correctly by a professional, but then the graphic design was done by a volunteer who doesn’t have any experience with Arabic text, and nobody on AOC’s team noticed because none of them know anything about Arabic, none of them know any Arabic speakers, and they don’t respect the Arab community enough to consult with them.

Edit: In fact, not just Arabic speakers. A Muslim of any background, or anyone familiar with the look of Arabic calligraphy would have been able to notice the letters weren't ligated properly.

I guess I'm not surprised that the party that is bombing Palestine doesn't have a single Muslim on staff, even in New York City. I'd be shocked if they did.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

No, this was deliberate. You can't even screw up this hard even if you were to use google translate or any other online translator. Anyone with even a grade 1 level of education on the Arabic language would know better.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, this was deliberate.

That's a bold claim. Prove it. I want to see hard evidence that AOC's campaign would deliberately antagonize her Arabic-speaking voters.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you took the 2 seconds to read my comment above the one you quoted you would have noticed that I said her campaign got screwed over by someone, not that she did it intentionally. Maybe read the context before you accuse someone of something? It's the second time this week alone that you've done it to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I said her campaign got screwed over by someone, not that she did it intentionally

Sorry, my mistake.

That's a bold claim. Prove it. I want to see hard evidence that her campaign was intentionally screwed over by someone.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Again. Read.

I explained my logic in my replies with HomerianSymphony (OP). If you want me to explain further you can ask.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I explained my logic

So you have no evidence for your claims. Gotcha. Not interested in faith-based discussions. Sorry I bothered you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The Newsweek article I linked doesn't say anything about it being translated incorrectly. It says the letters are in the wrong direction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not just the wrong order (which is also a very big fuck-up in itself). In Arabic letters in the same word connect with each other (with a few exceptions). It's kind of like cursive writing. Look at my first comment to see what I mean. There's no way anyone translating this made these kinds of mistakes by accident. Even if it were some English speaking intern who used Google Translate it would have been done better (as shown in my first comment).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

In Arabic letters in the same word connect with each other

Yes, that is also in the article. You should read the link before commenting.

The letters not connecting is an issue with the graphic design, not the translation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I did. I'm explaining why I believe this was intentional. This isn't a graphics design issue. Even if a graphic designer were to take the translation, mistakenly flip it to read right-to-left instead of left-to-right (I doubt it), the calligraphy is still wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I've seen people saying that if you paste Arabic text into InDesign, by default it orders it left-to-right and doesn't ligate the text.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not familiar with InDesign, so maybe if that's the case? I'd be surprised even then since the pasted text doesn't match the source in the slightest. But that could be a possibility.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The last time I used desktop publishing software was 20 years ago, but I can confirm it didn't handle Arabic text well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

and they don’t respect the Arabic community enough to consult with them.

Or maybe they didn't have the time because you need to get things to a printer on a deadline and there's an election in less than a week.

You're acting like this is some sort of bigotry when AOC is so obviously not a bigot and has shown every sign of genuinely caring about her district.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago

I don't understand. She's in New York City. She could probably bump into an Arabic speaker if she just stood on the sidewalk for five minutes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

As opposed to Arabic speakers in the other party?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

How is that related?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They can always ask their pal MBS to proofread.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Which is one more Arabic speaking pal than AOC has, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry... are you actually saying friendship with the bloodthirsty Saudi royals is preferable in a politician to one who didn't use someone to proofread the Arabic on a flyer?