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[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago

Since the practice of cyanide fishing was never widely publicised or officially approved, its origins are uncertain; but it is believed to have originated in the 1950s in the Philippines.

The World Resources Institute (WRI) determined that approximately 20% of the live fish traded on the Philippine market in 1996 were caught using cyanide

Estimates suggest 70% to 90% of aquarium fish exported from the Philippines are caught with cyanide.

The Philippines when they use cyanide fishing in Southeast Asia: don't worry guys, it's a perfectly safe and normal activity and contributes to the economy.

The Philippines when someone else uses cyanide fishing in Southeast Asia: horrible! Environmental catastrophe! Condemn them!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

A lot of sensationalism here around the use of cyanide. This is a real (but ecologically damaging) way to fish: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanide_fishing

The accusation is that Chinese fishing vessels are illegally and maliciously doing this around Scarborough, substantially hurting the local fishing industry.

This is awful, but it's not the mass-poisoning of the food supply as this article is inviting you to conclude that it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Any other sources? Not reported anywhere else.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Are they insane? This is not just cruel and disgusting, it's also incredibly stupid. This will seriously damage their reputation among other nations.

Damaging another nations food supply is a crime against humanity.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm pretty sure China has lost it's reputation with most countries and China is only dealt with due to fear of China retaliating economically.

In addition, I don't think China really cares what everyone else thinks or how their actions are perceived.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What are they gonna do about it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Not sure if crimes against humanity can be brought before the ICJ since this can't really be construed as a genocide. But I'm sure this is going to get amplified by the US media soon and will harm China geopolitically.

I'd want their coastguard to arrest the fisherman and charge them with terrorism using chemical warfare. But that might be a bad idea lol.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bro, USA didn't give a fuck about their own corporations shitting all over the environment. Or when Bolsonaro raped the Amazon, which is right in USA's backyard. Goodluck with expecting US media to care about the environment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Of course they don't care, but they want to prepare the US population for conflict with China. This is the ONLY reason they "care" about Uyghurs too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Are you going to Scarborough Shoal?
Motor oil, nets, and cyanide
It's not the home to a single soul
Not since all the poisoned fish died

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (3 children)

As someone who lives in the Greater Toronto Area, a place with a city called Scarborough in it, I was extremely confused and extremely terrified for way longer than I needed to be.

No idea there was a shoal out there called Scarborough as well.

That being said, I can't say I'm surprised Chinas reaction here is to salt the earth they can't have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Morning Joe Scarborough

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I was similarly pretty confused here that it was referring to the little seaside town in Yorkshire, which I assume all these other Scarboroughs (that I too had never heard of) are named after.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ah yes, the similarities are striking

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the two explorers from That Mitchell & Webb Look (youtube link)

"Of course not! Not North Wales! That's ridiculous! It's nothing like North Wales. No, South Wales of course. The resemblance is uncanny"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I genuinely thought your first picture would be Scarborough, ON based on the thumbnail. Your second picture is not Scarborough, ON. This is Scarborough, ON:

Note: you can see the core from your second image in the distance on the left.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Scarborough on what? Toast? 😋

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"If I can't have you, no one will." -- China, apparently.

And as usual, no one will do something decisive about it because China is a huge bully and is using its reputation as the world's factory and its economic heft to intimidate anyone who thinks of doing anything about it.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

China is a huge bully and is using its reputation as the world's factory and its economic heft

Funded by Western capitalists for the last 30 years in their never-ending greed for profits.

Should've kept manufacturing in their own countries, but no. Paying their workers well means less profits.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Funded by Western capitalists for the last 30 years in their never-ending greed for profits.

Oddly, it's less this and more hatred of unions and workers' rights. They could make even more money from people who are able to afford luxuries.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And the reason they hate those things. Is that because in a short-term it impacts their real profits.

Greed is always a short-term outlook. No immoral greedy person ever looked at something and said, boy if I just made society better we as a whole would benefit a whole lot more. It's always, give it to me. Give it to me naooooooow!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah. If they weren't so evolutionarily maladaptive, they could easily have provided for their offspring for the foreseeable future of the species in a way that would be be resilient to societal and environmental changes. It really is past time that this mental illness is studied and characterized.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh great now they’re deliberately poisoning the oceans as well.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR) revealed that Chinese fisherfolk have been using the deadly chemical compound cyanide to damage Bajo de Masinloc — a body of water also known as the Scarborough Shoal.

BFAR spokesperson Nazario Briguera had this to say about the said traditional fishing grounds, an area claimed by the People's Republic of China even if it's well within the West Philippine Sea.

"These Chinese fishermen use cyanide," said Briguera in Filipino during a Saturday News Forum press conference held in Quezon City.

"[T]hey intentionally destroy Bajo de Masinloc to prevent Filipino fishing boats to fish in the area."

Briguera estimated that the damages caused by the cynanide fishing could exceed P1 billion. However, the BFAR has yet to conduct a formal study on the matter.

The West Philippine Sea lies within the 200 nautical mile exclusive economic zone (EEZ) of the Philippines, a claim already backed by the Permanent Court of Arbitration way back in 2016.

BFAR said that this is a "serious concern," especially since it could also kill off developing fish larvae and corals.

According to data from the governent, around 385,300 rely on the West Philippine Sea for their livelihood. They catch around 275,520 metric tons of fish each year, which is equivalent to 6% to 7% of the country's fisheries sector.

"[The use of cyanide beyond their EEZ is a] clear case of illegal, unreported and undocumented fishing," Briguera said.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So, it's not Scarborough, UK. Of course that would have been really surprising. Thanks for this summary, ideally it should be in the body of the post.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

it's not Scarborough, UK.

York City fans in shambles.