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The billionaire has put himself front and center in the closing days of the campaign, making himself a perfect avatar for Trump's plutocratic policies

Behind his generally genial persona, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz has got a sharp tongue on him. He was particularly cutting toward former President Donald Trump on Tuesday when he appeared alongside former President Barack Obama to herald the start of early voting in Wisconsin. But the Democratic vice presidential nominee also had a new target in his sights: chaotic billionaire turned GOP megadonor Elon Musk.

Specifically, Walz took aim at Trump’s promise to appoint Musk to lead a new “government efficiency commission” if he wins. “[Musk] could spend millions to make more than $10 billion on the back end,” Walz told the crowd. “Donald Trump, in front of the eyes of the public, is promising corruption.”

It’s a sharp elbow from Walz — and one that Musk deserves to catch. In funneling his fortuneinto trying to get Trump elected, it is all too clear that the owner of Tesla and SpaceX is hoping to profit handsomely as a result. But in doing so, he’s also made himself a ready-made plutocratic villain for Walz and Vice President Kamala Harris in the closing days of the campaign.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

The thing that I think is the most crazy in this whole election is trumps ability to get known people with clout or influence to stand up in front of him and then be swiftly thrown under the bus.

Next!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is it me or is musk looking way older lately.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lots of drugs can do that to a person

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really really think he just became a drug addict and I do think a decade ago or so he was actually not so bad a person. Or at least hid it well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

He just hid it better, he was always a self-serving asshole. Like Trump he has just realized that the right side of the political spectrum are far easier to con out of their money. And both have shady connections to Putin as well, of course.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get that Musk is a useless twat and not good for much other than punching, but he's not running for president. This all seems like a distraction from talking about Don's progressing mental decline.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

Proxies are effective political attack vectors, see: politician's family like hunter biden, non running candidates like joe biden, talkshow hosts who speak positively about one or the other candidate

This kind of focal shift happens all the time, evidently to pretty decent effect, elon husk making himself the center of the R campaign brings his positive and negative baggage with it.

Side note

Husk isn't a US citizen so this is his peak political influence

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anyone still trying to argue Democrats are the party of rich elitists is out of their fucking mind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In no way am I trying to defend the GOP, Musk, Trump, or dissuade voting for Harris, because Democrats are obviously the lesser of the 2 evils, and we are like days out from the election so nothing we can do about that now besides get energized for the next round of primaries.

BUT I'd say there are still plenty of valid arguments that the Democrats are a party of rich elites. It isn't mutually exclusive, both the GOP and Democrats can be this at the same time, and I'm not saying "BoTh SiDeS aRe ThE sAmE" because literal fascists are worse than neoliberals or however you want to characterize Democrats.

Am I out of my mind?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I would be much more open to the criticism that the "Democrats are a party of rich elites" if the other party was not wholly dedicated to stopping any and all progressive action taken by said Democrats. When they've had the actual legislative power to get shit done, they have. Last time they had control of both houses of Congress, POTUS, and enough votes in the Senate to bypass a GOP fillibuster they passed the ACA. That was with an absolute BARE MINIMUM number of votes that required compromise with Lieberman.

We literally elect enough people to stop them from doing anything that doesn't benefit rich elites. I don't think that's the same thing as being a party of rich elites, when there are plenty of progressive politicians with power in the Democratic party and they've put forward lots of decent policies that the GOP kills 100% of the time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Projection for the 15 zillionth time by the GOP

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Alternatively, Space Trump

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Space Karen vonTrump

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every one of these pictures of Musk looks like a kid tried to model a human head out of Play-Doh

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s a mean thing to say about his plastic surgeon.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Look, I'm sure his surgeon did the best they could, but even masters can struggle when they're working with a subpar medium.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's such an attention-hungry dork it makes him very easy to hate on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Dork MAGA, too be precise.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago

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