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I’m a teacher and our division just “upgraded” to W11 with a new version of outlook that is basically a web app on desktop. Several times a day my laptop comes to a complete crawl while Teams decides to open itself. Can’t open or close programs, Firefox won’t register mouse clicks, nothing. Graphical glitches appear al the time with menu bars and task bars disappearing regularly, requiring force quitting the app or logging out of the desktop.

When I first switched to Linux I assumed my experience would be like this. But now it’s the other way around.

Rant over.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My experience exactly. My current company is rolling out new W11 laptops as the old ones age out.

I'm consistently amazed at how poorly Windows 11 runs on these brand new, $1500 enterprise grade machines. They all have the latest Intel i7 chips, 16GB of DDR5 memory, Nvme 1TB drives, 1440p beautiful screens, and they perform like ass.

Constant lockups, stuttering, slow to wake up, slow to open programs, the fans constantly spin up super loud with almost nothing running in the foreground.

I see frequent GUI glitches and bugs, literally had the WiFi stop working on one yesterday, just wouldn't connect to anything and the tray app wouldn't pop up when clicked. Had to restart the whole computer and log in again to get it to connect.

Meanwhile, the 11 year old retired desktops that I repurposed for internal company resources like Open Project, Uptime Kuma, and Ansible are running plain old Debian with KDE Plasma and are rock solid. They never crash, never freeze up, are always super responsive, and are fast to update. The longest one of them has taken to update was maybe 3 minutes?

Windows on the other hand... Lets just say there's a reason I push updates at the end of the day.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We’re being forced to move everyone to W11 by the end of the year. It’s gonna be hell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

My company already did - it was a shitshow and my laptop sucks even more now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah now add Dynamics to all that and you get my day. Eyeroll

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We have Linux workstations at work.....and these can only be used to access a remote desktop of a Windows 10 virtual machine. 👍

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My boss told me to get a laptop and I'd be reimbursed, so I got a System76 with Fedora. "How are you going to use (company proprietary software that only works on Windows)?" I told him I could run it on wine (and I have). But he ended up assigning me a Windows 365 cloud, so now I have a very nice laptop that just works, and I only fire up the cloud crap if I really need to.

Suffice it to say that I'm the only upper management member that barely interacts with the IT department, I don't need to 🤣🤣

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an admin who manages windows devices, it’s not only a pain for the end users. I will readily admit that the management tools are quite extensive and somewhat easy to use, but they’re damn near impossible to debug when they don’t work, and that’s quite often. Gpo’s often refuse to apply without reason, those ads on the Lock Screen? You can remove those if you pay for enterprise or education edition. Running pro? Nope you get ads.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

When teams is just doing chat things, it's fine. But the fact that it's the only program that doesn't remember which monitor it is supposed to be on, and never remembers the show on all desktop settings, drives me insane. Not to mention that it seems to restart itself multiple time per day and makes me fix its location each time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I spend a lot of my workday looking at windows that have turned white and "not responding", or clicking on things and waiting a minute to see whether the click worked, or waiting for the Start menu to allow me to type, or waiting for the indexing service to spare me a little bit of my computer for my own use, etc. Then I come home to Linux and remember how computers can actually be fast and satisfying to use.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have to use SharePoint on a daily basis.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

You're fucked.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

We pray for you

[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

What a big pile of shit software, I swear I'm just gonna quit because of this ass smelling garbage.

Today I discovered that C:/Users/MyUser was silently an alias of C:/Users/OneDriveBullshit/MyUser only in the explorer. So I just figured out why some documents were often disappearing for months, I'm just working on a multiverse were depending on the application the same path don't lead to the same folder.

Earlier this week I unzipped a file and couldn't remove resulting files without administrator privileges.

I've never lost so much time for any fucking software, let alone a paid one. And don't even get me starting on the fucking ads they put everywhere even if you unchecked the 154 options in 42 different menus.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My current company just got bought out earlier this year, we are in the process of rolling all our stuff into their IT infrastructure.

I was lucky enough to get to use Debian as my OS on my old company laptop because I was the only IT at this company. Last week they finally issued me my new corporate laptop, which of course is Windows because the company that bought us out is a 100% Microsoft house.

One of their sys admins was on a call with me to get the laptop set up and working on their VPN, MFA enrollment, it was supposed to be a "quick 15 minute call."

I watched him as he fought remotely with my machine for almost an hour. The VPN wouldn't work no matter what he tried, then the GUI started acting up, then RDP wasn't working right, then MFA wasn't working. This was a brand new installation from their golden image too on a brand new high end laptop.

After about 20 minutes, I told him I was gunna stay on the call muted and to just let me know when everything was working properly. Then I hopped back onto my Linux laptop and spent the rest of the call getting actual work done while their new Windows machine was pooping the bed.

He didn't actually even get it working at the end of the hour lol. He had to remote in later that evening to finish doing a bunch of registry fixes and file purges to finally get the VPN to connect.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just dealt with my directories secretly being in one drive. It actually was only found because the system was buggy and I couldn’t find the desktop directory in Explorer.

I had to edit the registry to fully resolve the issue.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Also, I don't get how people just accept that any input they perform will require an average of 1s for feedback.

But at least now I understand why macs are so popular...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I also experienced less "hiccups" since switching to Linux with KDE but I'd like to know on what combination of hardware and Windows you experienced anywhere close to an average of 1s response time to "any input".

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

This is the thing I hate most about windows. Did it register the thing I clicked? Is something happening? If I click again will it do the task twice? Complete opposite of how my Mac works.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Wow thank you I needed that.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Software neutrality in the entire public sector should be a law. Leverage of proprietary software and media like professor published book scams are criminal extortion.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yeah they transferred all of our network files held on our own private servers over to Teams. I didn’t even know that teams did file storage. I guess through one drive.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Everything is through OneDrive. Even stuff that doesn't need to be. Desktop shortcuts...really?

Also - I hate Teams, refuse to use it. The one time I did use it for some irrelevant confirmation message, it stuck and now not only does it load every time I log on (to get closed immediately), it also has the history of that one message. That I've tried to delete, and it keeps coming back.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@maxprime same lol. Somehow the whole os feels like one gigantic advertisement... That is trying it's best to not let you use your computer

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You can control what programs open on boot in the task manager. Teams was one of the first things I disabled.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

No, I can’t.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hate to say but in our office it's the other way around. Teams HAS to start automatically before outlook can be opened manually otherwise the addin for meetings won't load. Every morning I log in, make some coffee and then go talk to colleagues.. Thanks Microsoft for the slow morning, other see this as luxury!

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That is, if the laptop isn't totally locked down by IT. But knowing school's IT budget that probably isn't the case.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

I can’t even change the length of time before the screen locks.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IT "locking down" Laptops often means they just give all power to Microsoft I assume

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

For us you get a popup that sends a ticket to IT and you have to fill out a reason why you need to do whatever it is you are trying to do. Then you wait like 10 minutes and try again to see if it was approved. If it asks for permission again then you need to assume they rejected it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Are you serious? "Assuming" is the streamline? DAMN!

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