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Jill Stein hurts Donald Trump more than Kamala Harris, poll suggests (www.newsweek.com)

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A new poll suggests that Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein is drawing more voters from former President Donald Trump than from Vice President Kamala Harris.

According to a Noble Predictive Insights survey released last week, Harris holds a narrow lead over Trump in a hypothetical three-way race. With Stein on the ballot, Harris' lead expands, pointing to a potential spoiler effect similar to what many Democrats blamed Stein for doing to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

For Trump, the emergence of Stein as a potential spoiler may be a critical factor in battleground states, where even a small shift in votes could determine the outcome. For Harris, Stein's candidacy could paradoxically provide an unexpected advantage, drawing votes from Trump and narrowing his pathway to victory.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I don't listen to polls anymore. I've already voted, I don't give a fuck about who's leading who.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

MRW when @univeralmonk was right

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Without looking at any statistics or polling, I think the spoiler effect is not as prominent and is over stated for one reason.

If I'm going out of my way to not vote for the Democrats or Republicans and voting third party that would mean that I dislike my options so much that I'm giving a fuck you to the two party system.

What people can gather from this is if you said there was only two options I would just sit out and therefore it wasn't going to affect either candidate regardless.

I'm open to be convinced otherwise but I think candidates blaming spoilers should look at the electoral college and themselves when every 4 years they are ready to blame single digit candidates for their losses.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It sounds like your interpretation of the spoiler effect centers on people voting third party due to dissatisfaction with the 2 unfortunately omnipresent parties, which would be the same as not voting. Have you considered that some people who were going to vote no matter what might vote for a third party candidate because their listed policies actually resonate with them?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Democrats will still blame Stein if they lose, and even though their explicit strategy is to pick off disaffected Republicans, they'll never blame Chase Oliver. It's just like in 2016, when Hillary used the exact same strategy, and they blamed Stein, even though Gary Johnson took home a much higher percentage of the vote in most swing states. They don't care about spoiler candidates; they just want to punch left, especially when they need a scapegoat for a loss.

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