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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Probably a lower adoption rate than Vista

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 days ago (13 children)

I'm just waiting for the EOL of window 10 to see which of the following will happen:

  1. Many PCs will stop getting updates, people don't care
  2. Many PCs will be replaced for windows 11
  3. Turns out people already have replaced their PCs due to other reasons
  4. Microsoft removes the hardware requirements
  5. People switch to another OS
  6. People just don't buy a home PC anymore
  7. ????
  8. Profit???
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Or Win10 IoT LTSC till 2032

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

240 millions PC will become e-waste if Win10 reaches EoL

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Sounds like homelabber paradise is headed for eBay

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I don't see the os switch happening unless microsoft stops existing in its entirety.

Abandoning home PCs could be a thing I guess, but i feel like that would happen either way for these people

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I doubt the os switch is happening too, some will probably switch but that will be a small amount, either they get Linux or afaik all other "popular" options require new hardware anyways (Macos)

I think many will just stay on windows 10 if their hardware doesn't support 11 but ehh

Difficult to say, that's why I'm waiting on the EOL for headlines like "millions of pcs vulnerable due to missing updates" or "maybe we were a little hard on crowdstrike"

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'd guess that major UI revisions are a big reason for average users. People don't like having to relearn how to do something or find a setting. If M$ implemented a legacy UI setting that by and large mimicked the interface and controls in W10 they'd clear a major hurdle preventing less technologically inclined users from upgrading.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

My guess is that the average user doesn't care at all and just clicks away update notifications because they are annoyed by them

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Bring Windows 12. Windows 11 is terrible.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Windows 12 will be even worse

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Yup...Windows 12? The evil monkey's paw demon is like, "I'll give you that wish for free."

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If there was ever a time for valve to push advertising out for the steam deck and steamOS it's now. The final piece of the gaming puzzle is anticheat. If valve gets the proprietary anticheat makers on board then it's all over. Every major hurdle would've been overcome, but games like valorant and call of duty still don't work because of vanguard and ricochet.

With how terrible windows handhelds are, imagine how awesome it would be for those cod players to be able to play a round of warzone on the toilet? I joke, but seriously, that's the demographic that needs to adopt a platform like the steam deck. That's the barrier valve has to overcome, and I'm worried they just don't care or something even more legally gray is happening, like Microsoft giving game devs incentive to use proprietary anticheat or to just not flip that EAC flag in their code.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Roblox still doesn't have native support : /

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The author asks many questions, but never the most important one: "Why don't people like Windows 11?"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Why would he? Anybody intersted already knows, rest doesn't give a flying duck.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

obligatory 🐧 that must be in every thread

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

My question is this: Do Microsoft ship crap-infested versions to people who could make their lives uncomfortable, like, say, intelligence agencies, or do those agencies take a crap-infested version and have their IT security strip all the crap out?

Because if I was in charge of an intelligence agency I'd be asking - with dangerous smile - for the crap-free version, turn IT loose on it anyway and then be, shall we say, horribly invasive to Microsoft if there's anything still left in it.

... and if I wanted Windows, I'd want whatever the end result of that is.

On the other hand, maybe this has already happened and that "horrible invasion" is the cause of all the spyware crap in the consumer release.

Sigh.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No.

For Enterprise users they offer LTSC versions (bare minimum version of the OS) with extended support, and national agencies are able to get the source code of Windows under the program Shared Source Initiative.

Network traffic can be monitored, so a private intelligence agency also could watch any unwanted calls made solely by the OS and block them accordingly.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Both. The enterprise edition has less crap, but most big companies will use custom images and group policy to decrapify it further. I do the same thing at home since I used to be the guy doing it at work. I don't get any of the copilot or recall bullshit.

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