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Dozens of interviews with people deeply familiar or involved with the election process point to a clear consensus: Not only could Trump make a second attempt at overturning an election he loses, he and his allies are already laying the groundwork.

Archived at https://ghostarchive.org/archive/8e3Ri

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago (2 children)

He will try to ensure Harris is denied 270 votes in the Electoral College, sending the election to the House, where Republicans are likely to have the numbers to choose Trump as the next president

This seems like the most likely outcome. System needs reform.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Overturning a Kamala Harris victory would require an enormous amount of help from Republican power brokers in statehouses and Congress, some of whom spurned him four years ago.

That won't be a problem for them. Republicans spurn only until it's to their personal advantage to un-spurn.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (3 children)

He doesn't control the federal government this time, so his chances are worse this time.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago

His cronies are at all levels of government, including many red state election officials.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I dunno if we've gotta worry about that, because every day, it's looking more and more like Trump is going to win outright, again. No idea how, with all the experience and years to plan for this, we're going to let this fucking cunt finally kill our Democracy. My faith in the United States is completely shattered.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The electoral college almost guarantees him a win, it was specifically designed to ensure the slave states always kept power, which is why when they finally lost in 1861, the first thing they did was flip the table.

We really needed to let those states leave, would have been the best thing to ever happen to this country, the trash take themselves out.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We shouldn't have let them leave, we should have kept reconstruction going until 2050.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

I think reconstruction would have gone a lot faster if we'd handed the plantation owners to their slaves and walked away.

They've been inciting racial violence for political ends ever since.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I mean the clear and obvious answer is that the Democratic Party didn't plan for shit. Their plan was running Biden again with their only platform being "We're Not Trump." In the years since January 6th, they've done nothing to safeguard our democracy, while Republicans have fervently planned for a coup.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Yeah half of you guys are fucked, but you should come to Australia it's only a boring level of corruption here. We read up on us politics to see what dumb stuff they're up to for fun

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, you guys have a fair bit more than a "boring" level of corruption yourselves, tbh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Our media is just better at being wilfully ignorant of the corruption unless it’s about the price of milk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Looks at friendly jordies and raises eyebrow.

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[–] [email protected] 200 points 3 days ago (1 children)

WE KNOOOOWWWW. It’s the worst-kept secret in politics. People in other countries are aware. The birds are aware. It’s part and parcel of the experience of fascism. Never underestimate what pure evil is capable of doing.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Realistically is there anything we can do?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Saving America one D at a time.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Be ready, especially if you're on the east coast.

The rednecks are assuming they're the only ones with balls and nobody else will stand up to them, like all bullies think.

Prove them wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago

Save up so you can buy a bus/train/plane ticket to DC if they try shit. If they do what they're signaling and the legislature fails us it'll be down to mass civil disobedience to keep the country from fascism.

I wish I had a better answer, but they've eroded so many of our institutions.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Grassroots political activism and civic engagement. A sufficiently large victory would help discredit their methods going into the future. In the shorter term, our own legions of poll watchers will provide additional witnesses to offer witness testimony when things inevitably land in court.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Give him the Mussolini treatment.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

at a personal level, contact the governor and ask them how you can be certain as a voter that trump won't steal the election like he tried in 2020.

let them know you're paying attention.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My fucking Governor is in on it

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

I bet a few of them are.

despite the fuckery, many policy decisions are changed by people calling in and emailing in and telling the elected officials that people are watching them and disagree with what they are doing.

public opinion does make a difference, so on a personal level that's what we can do.

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