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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Goddamnit yes. It’s why I’m very pro-gatekeeping. Because people who are new to a hobby because it got popular tend to ruin every-fucking-thing.

For example: flight simulator. That used to be an exclusively nerd domain up until the FS2020 version, which was released on Xbox. The result: a massive influx of new garbage payware and a decline in quality of established brands. While also making the sim worse in order to chase broader appeal. It’s gotten a bit better after covid went away and the normies dropped the hobby, thankfully.

Also: film photography. The popularity of instagram and YouTube ‘influencers’ got a lot of people into our hobby the past decade. It’s lead to increased gear prices, film being more difficult to get and the forums flooding with the dumbest possible questions, since these newcomers are allergic as fuck to reading manuals or watching any tutorial longer than thirty seconds. It’s also lead camera manufacturers to chase this new demographic by making their cameras shittier and more ‘instagram-friendly’. Here’s looking at you, Fujifilm and your shitty X-half.

Take it from someone who’s been around a bit: if you like a thing, keep newcomers away from it. Gatekeep it like the Berlin Fucking Wall, lest they completely fuck up your hobby.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm in the same boat with a few others here when it comes to some games like Halo and Fallout. But I feel like I'm on the brink with 2 new ones:

  • Doom: I played the original when I was a kid and got bullied for it (or probably being a general nerd). 2016 and Eternal were really popular and the franchise took off; but Dark Ages feels off. I played Dark Ages for a bit, put it down, and haven't picked it up since. I think Doom is going down the shitter, especially what they did to Mick Gordon.
  • Mother Mother (a band): My SO and I love their music for how unique and interesting it is; and we went to one of their first concerts at a small venue when they came into town ~10 years ago ish? Must have been <500 people. Generally no one else liked their music we shared it with, so we kept it to ourselves. Now? We went to another one a few months ago and it was at a HUGE stadium; absolutely packed. I think one of their songs went viral on TikTok - My Daddy's got a gun. We're proud of what they've accomplished, but really hope they don't lose their identity in trying to become even more popular.
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

TIL Mother Mother is popular now. Loved O My Heart back in the day

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's equally as bad when you discover you like something that has been around for a while and has lots of fans and you don't get accepted or realise you don't want to be part of the fans because of how shitty, toxic, dumb etc. they are. A relevant example for this is Assassin's creed for me. I never like any of the games until AC: Origins, even though I gave most of them a fair shake. AC: Origins is a 10/10 for me, I put in over 600h hours into that game, 100%'ed it and all its expansions/dlc. AC: Odyssey is good too, but I never got as into it, so a 8/10. Valhalla never looked good in any way so never even tried it. Started playing Shadows about a week ago and really enjoying it so far, not as good as Origins but mostly better than Odyssey. But damn do people not like when I mention this, like I'm not allowed to like it because I didn't like the earlier games. I have no issue with people liking them and not the ones I do, never said anything else. Music is a lot like this too. "Oh, you like their newer stuff? Fucking idiot, only the early stuff is good, I now see down on you as a person and hate every opinion you have".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There's way too much gatekeeping in gaming. People don't seem to understand that everyone has different tastes, and it's all subjective. There is no objectively good game. For me it's Half Life 2, I don't like shooters, tried it but couldn't get into it. But to many it's one of the greatest games ever.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Not to that extent, but crypto. I think its an amazing and really interesting technology. But now it's tainted by scammers and when people hear the term, they get defensive because they are ready for you to scam them

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Feels bad man

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

I am an avid collector and drinker of Chinese teas, particularly oolongs and puerh. I had been drinking them for years when suddenly the absolute asshole Dr. Oz went on TV claiming that puerh tea was some magical cure for anything and everything that you might have.

Normally, I get excited for new people to share tea with, but this fad caused prices to rise across the board and caused the market to get flooded with awful quality tea. These people were drinking some of the worst quality (fishy, shou/cooked puerh) teas and were more obsessed with how to mask the flavors with milk and sugar than actually slowing down and enjoying the tea.

The fad faded and people went back to putting matcha in their morning milkshakes. Even so, I still run into people that reflexively associate incredible tea with Dr. Oz and the disgusting teas he foisted upon his audience. Sad.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Tabletop RPG. It used to be a niche of the internet in the early days, with people posting here and there their scenarios, campaign, ideas etc. It was hard to find and so pleasurable when you found something.

Nowadays it's trusted by ... Wizard if the coast ? Online only platforms and what have you.

I loved #scenariotheque, but now it's almost a ghost website (pardon the french).

I know if sounds like old man yell at clouds, but damn do I miss the early days.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I feel with you but I think it also brought some benefits. Finding time to meet up with my friends has become harder and harder with everyone growing up, studying, getting jobs.

The influx of people during covid catapulted the virtual tabletop solutions ahead and now we regularly play again using foundry vtt since everyone can just sit at home.

But yeah, online everyone just talks about DnD or Critical Roll it feels like and unless you're on reddit there's very few communities left.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Star Wars

This happened to all the ols school Star Wars fans. Disney created the "idiot fans"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yup. Was a huge fan of the EU books and lore. Wanted to give Disney a chance, so I saw the first few movies. It was like seeing your ex at the club but she'd gone through massive amounts of plastic surgery and they'd removed all the unique features that attracted you originally. Haven't watched anything Star Wars since the second movie in the new trilogy, literally 0 desire to see the conclusion or any new Star wars content.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I thought the force awakens was pretty decent. I mean it's literally just a new hope redux.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

It wasn't a bad movie, the characters were just incredibly forgettable. Rogue One was a good standalone movie, but it was kinda bittersweet because they stole part of Kyle Katarn's backstory and he was always one of my favorite characters.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

All of the more recent Star Wars slop has made me realize that the original films aren't really that good either.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bite your tongue. Like a lot of things from the past, they need to be viewed in context

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean they are objectively poor in a lot of ways, but you're spot on. At the time they were fricking mind blowing. Space opera/space cowboys on the big screen! Before that we had what? 2001 and star trek?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah any decent sci-fi before Star Wars was heady with little action. Logans Run, Silent Running. Also in my mind I saw sequels in general change from shameless cash grab to better attempts

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I keep getting people telling me they won't watch Andor because of the other slop and it makes me sad

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Pogs are cool little disks

Then it became a children’s verb

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