Sad... Did not see the survey when it was running...
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"What is your gender?"
82 females, 3300 males...
Ah guys, where are the females?
Shout out to my fellow "None Backup Strategies" chaos goblins.
Wat?
I only need to send sign up and password reset emails for Jellyfin, I don't need to receive any emails back.
I meant more like... which server part are you hosting. Answer: Client...
Which service are you using for this?
Use anything... Mailcow or otherwise. Just don't expose the ports on your firewall/router to connect back to you.
I think this is pretty troubling. Including myself in the sentiment that the self-hosting community needs to do better. Aside from funding individual projects, are there any organizations that help fund self-hosting projects?
How so? 40%-ish is actually pretty good!
I'm also in the "no" bucket, but I've contributed bug reports and do intend to donate soonish now that I use more visible projects (used to just be minidlna, BTRFS, and openSUSE). I only added Jellyfin a few months ago, and I do intend to donate since I don't intend to report bugs or contribute code.
True, it’s a good percentage, and probably better than most free software. That said, given the communities the self hosted apps support, their excitement for the products, and for some the essential nature of some of these apps, it would be nice to see the yes/no number more 50/50 at least.
There's a fundamental problem with FOSS culture that anyone who asks for money is seen negatively. Which I get, but also, I think the other edge of the sword, depending on donations, is worse, because ad-driven and freemium companies like Google and Meta have created a culture of entitlement. Ideally they would set up a 501c3 like Signal or Ghost, but obviously that can be cost and time-prohibitive.
I’m in the no-bucket, but instead i spend time on issues, helping the community and sometimes code contributions to self hosted projects instead.
This is not taken into the account of the question, however, but should be considered as contributing.
(I also consider donating to be contributing.)
Agreed. I’m not much of a coder, so the best contribution I can give is probably $$. At least until I get off my ass and learn something new!
Really interesting to scroll through and see. Picked up a couple of new tools to look into, too, thanks!
I am disappointed ...
Why? I'm not particularly interested in ActivityPub, I just use Lemmy because it's the closest thing to Reddit w/o being Reddit. Once a better alternative shows up, I'm out.
I'm happy to throw some money at the admin of my instance, I'm not interested in hosting something myself, especially when things can break when different instances are on different versions.
I don't want to accidentally cache some no-no content that gets me turbofucked by the law, sure I could probably defend if it ever came up but that's a stress i dont even want the possibility of having in my life
I sort of get it. When you self host mastodon or lemmy, you have to deal with the moderation that comes with it. That's a headache unless you have a ton of free time. Judging by the age distribution, I'm guessing most of us just want things to work so we can do what we enjoy.
Not just moderation, but you are responsible for all content on your server, some of which may be illegal and hosting it is a IRL crime, but the sheer size of it is impossible to filter.
You can run those as single-user instances or with approval of users so you can use those instances for your family and/or friends only.
@CosmicTurtle0 hosting a single user federated blog is also an option, you are only responsible for yourself and your friends you host. Not necessary to host public.
federated blog
I wonder what federated blog (or publishing platform) isn't stuck in pre-Docker era, though.
Yeah. While I can dockerize those applications, all I checked out lack modern features and concepts/designs. It all feels heavily outdated technology-wise.
@𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬 I think thats the fun of it, different people building tools as per their knowledge/requirements, with time i'm sure someone will make something that you might find suitable :)
What the hell is an ActivityPub platform?
ActivityPub is the protocol powering the Fediverse. Platforms include Lemmy, Mastodon and Pixelfed.
What are some interesting things to host?
The usual suspects: Mastodon (or mastodon-compatible servers like GoToSocial), PeerTube, Pixelfed, etc.
I just don't see the use of self hosting these just for myself. I guess that's why so little people do this?
Lemmy uses activity pub right? 200 in a survey hosting similar stuff is not that bad IMO.
Damn, and I thought the gender ratio on Lemmy was bad.
Eh, the women I know in tech aren't particularly interested in self-hosting. Not sure why, but women seem to have a stronger separation between work and hobbies, whereas the men I work with often do personal projects at home related to their work. I think the women I work with would be more than capable, they just seem uninterested.
Possibly related to the whole mental load thing: https://english.emmaclit.com/2017/05/20/you-shouldve-asked/
When you have two jobs you don't really want a third.
I do wonder how many within the man/woman responses are trans, too.
Idk if that survey was mainly advertised on lemmy, but i know that at least one instance that did a survey had maybe 2% woman respondents, but more than two thirds of those were transfem.
Either way, a little disconcerting. I'm not sure what to make of that or what (if anything) to do about it
Wonder how the survey was sent out and whether that affected sampling.
Regardless, with -3-4k responses, that’s disappointing, if not concerning.
I only have a more personal sense for Lemmy. Do you have a source for Lemmy gender diversity?
Anyway, what do you think are the underlying issues? And what would be some suggestions to the community to address them?
It's hard to know overall for Lemmy, but I know that both Lemmy.ca and Lemmy.nz have surveyed their members.
https://lemmy.ca/post/15125231 https://lemmy.nz/post/12001861
Both were around 87% men, where as this selfhosting one is like 96% men.
I would guess it's explained by society. Women are less likely to be in STEM which seems to almost be a prerequisite for Lemmy and possibly self-hosting, and of those women in STEM, and ( despite what you might think about your own house) there is still a societal expectation of them running the household and doing most of the household chores, even when they work full time. A third job, selfhosting, may be too much.