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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Sad... Did not see the survey when it was running...

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

"What is your gender?"

82 females, 3300 males...

Ah guys, where are the females?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I'm a woman who does some self hosting. Hi.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 months ago

Shout out to my fellow "None Backup Strategies" chaos goblins.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I only need to send sign up and password reset emails for Jellyfin, I don't need to receive any emails back.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I meant more like... which server part are you hosting. Answer: Client...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You could self host a web client

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Which service are you using for this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Use anything... Mailcow or otherwise. Just don't expose the ports on your firewall/router to connect back to you.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I think this is pretty troubling. Including myself in the sentiment that the self-hosting community needs to do better. Aside from funding individual projects, are there any organizations that help fund self-hosting projects?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How so? 40%-ish is actually pretty good!

I'm also in the "no" bucket, but I've contributed bug reports and do intend to donate soonish now that I use more visible projects (used to just be minidlna, BTRFS, and openSUSE). I only added Jellyfin a few months ago, and I do intend to donate since I don't intend to report bugs or contribute code.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (7 children)

True, it’s a good percentage, and probably better than most free software. That said, given the communities the self hosted apps support, their excitement for the products, and for some the essential nature of some of these apps, it would be nice to see the yes/no number more 50/50 at least.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m in the no-bucket, but instead i spend time on issues, helping the community and sometimes code contributions to self hosted projects instead.

This is not taken into the account of the question, however, but should be considered as contributing.

(I also consider donating to be contributing.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Agreed. I’m not much of a coder, so the best contribution I can give is probably $$. At least until I get off my ass and learn something new!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Really interesting to scroll through and see. Picked up a couple of new tools to look into, too, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 72 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Damn, and I thought the gender ratio on Lemmy was bad.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Eh, the women I know in tech aren't particularly interested in self-hosting. Not sure why, but women seem to have a stronger separation between work and hobbies, whereas the men I work with often do personal projects at home related to their work. I think the women I work with would be more than capable, they just seem uninterested.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Possibly related to the whole mental load thing: https://english.emmaclit.com/2017/05/20/you-shouldve-asked/

When you have two jobs you don't really want a third.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I do wonder how many within the man/woman responses are trans, too.

Idk if that survey was mainly advertised on lemmy, but i know that at least one instance that did a survey had maybe 2% woman respondents, but more than two thirds of those were transfem.

Either way, a little disconcerting. I'm not sure what to make of that or what (if anything) to do about it

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Wonder how the survey was sent out and whether that affected sampling.

Regardless, with -3-4k responses, that’s disappointing, if not concerning.

I only have a more personal sense for Lemmy. Do you have a source for Lemmy gender diversity?

Anyway, what do you think are the underlying issues? And what would be some suggestions to the community to address them?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's hard to know overall for Lemmy, but I know that both Lemmy.ca and Lemmy.nz have surveyed their members.

https://lemmy.ca/post/15125231 https://lemmy.nz/post/12001861

Both were around 87% men, where as this selfhosting one is like 96% men.

I would guess it's explained by society. Women are less likely to be in STEM which seems to almost be a prerequisite for Lemmy and possibly self-hosting, and of those women in STEM, and ( despite what you might think about your own house) there is still a societal expectation of them running the household and doing most of the household chores, even when they work full time. A third job, selfhosting, may be too much.

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