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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Does anybody else also think this way of talking is psychological manipulation?

"This is my voice"

"You love my voice"

"My voice soothes you"

"My voice will guide you"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

"Pretty bird."

"Pretty bird."

"Pretty bird."

"Pretty bird."

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Oof. I just realized something. There must be people whose job it is to translate the transcription of Trump's speeches into other languages. Journalists might have to do it for media in their country. People working in the diplomatic / spy apparatus of their countries might need to track what an American president / presidential candidate says in case it is important to their national interests.

Can you imagine having to do that, to structure what he says so that it vaguely makes some kind of sense in another language?

I also wonder if there's a way that a screenwriter could organize, punctuate and annotate this mess so that an actor could deliver these lines the same way. Like, it's obviously a word salad, but there's a variety in the kinds of emphasis he uses for certain words or phrases. Since there's no "natural" way to say all those words, I wonder if there's a way to transcribe it so that an actor could say the words in the same way without having to listen to the speech.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

It's called sanewashing. Stop trying to interpret what he says. Just print the direct quote.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

I could see it being like subtitles

"All of a sudden there [random bullshit] and then [gibberish] big circles [indecipherable nonsense]"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

When Trump gave his inauguration speech there were lots of articles about translators saying it was impossible to translate.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Wow. I never thought how terrible of a job that must be.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I imagine them just giving up and doing something like (25 minutes of nonsensical speech)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I'm sure they'd love to do that, but the problem is that mixed in with all the nonsense there actually may be things that would become policy. Like, if you're in Mexico's government, you really do need to know what his plans are going to be for the border. And, every once in a while he'll slip something into his rambling nonsense which might actually relate to border policy.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

rocket ships that land within 12 inches on the moon of where they wanted to land

That's Japan, not Elon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Engine back guarantee. We'll land within 12 inches or you get the engines back!

[–] [email protected] 95 points 5 days ago (1 children)

HOW THE FRESH HELL IS KAMALA SEEN AS INCOMPETENT AND DUMB WHEN THIS MAN BREATHES? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I realized in a reddit argument a while back that one huge difference between Trump supporters and the rest of us is: Trump supporters expect less from Trump. Hold him to a lower standard than they hold themselves or non-supporters to.

In the argument, I had a supporter tell me that "raking the leaves" was advocating wildfire management -- including controlled burns. And the person followed it up with remarks along the lines of, "you should have been smart enough to know that's what he was saying."

Which was crazy to me because:

  • they were measuring my intelligence by my ability to come up with numerous unique rephrasings and potential meanings to Trump's words
  • they were scoring higher than Trump by their own intelligence metric
    • Trump could only come up with "raking the leaves" and the commenter came up with "as a country, we should be putting more resources into wildfire management", a much more coherent and intelligent phrasing
  • in expecting me to be able to read multiple meanings into "raking the leaves", this person was ALSO expecting me to score higher on this measure of intelligence than Trump. And calling me stupid for not outscoring Trump.

Basically told me that if I wasn't smarter than Trump, I was stupid.

I pointed this out to them and never got a response.

Anyways, different standards. According to Trump supporters:

  • if you're no smarter than Trump, you are an idiot;
  • if you're no kinder than Trump, you are sadistic and malicious;
  • if you are no more effective than Trump, you are useless,
  • But Trump is the smartest, kindest, most valuable person there is.
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's a common tactic on the right. Trump says some nonsense. Then the left makes fun of it for being nonsense. Then the right pretends there is a reasonable explanation besides Trump's mind deteriorating. They use this made up explanation to attack the left's intelligence for not getting the made up explanation. When in fact they are in engaging in bad-faith gas lighting to cover for Trump's incoherence and incompetence.

It would be useful to ask them why they feel the need to make stuff up to cover for Trump's failings. Since the justification they made up isn't real, Trump just rambles incoherently, there is nothing to get. It's summarized by the saying the emperor has no clothes. edit: typo

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There’s been this idea circulating among Christians that Trump is actually chosen by God to help protect his people. This is because there are instances in the Bible of “outsiders” being chosen by God to protect the Jews in the Old Testament. They just see it as another one of those instances. Now, we’re dealing with faith. They can overlook his gaffes, his very un-Christian behaviors, bad perspective on reality, all of the issues. Because they know he’s not one of them. They don’t care. They have faith that he will protect them and deliver the United States to Christian rule despite his seemingly sinful ways.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I know of a Christian who believed Trump is the anti-christ, as foretold by Revelations and made direct comparisons. But he still voted for Trump anyway, because he could never support a Democrat. I live in an area where majority of Christians believe that Jesus actually would in fact forgive them for their actions that are antithetical to the Bible and cherry-picked Bible quotes. He was very homophobic too, so I deliberately dressed more queer to be irritating.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I will never, ever understand Christians. Jews are God's chosen people, they are the ones who are to be defended and cherished, their state should be defended... Why aren't Christians Jewish? Why be Christians at all?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I need to save this, because it's so well put.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago

This is the best explanation of his cult that I have ever seen! Wow. Honesty VP Harris should just read off your explanation in her next attack ad.

No joke, you should consider cleaning that up and posting it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What are these circles we are filling up with press?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (3 children)

He's referring to the "rallies" that Biden would have durring covid where small tables would be set out with a circle drawn on the ground with lots of space in between.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

My wife has an apple watch, I assumed he was talking about those circles.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

To be clear, that's the only sense that people have managed to make of it. That doesn't mean that was actually what he was referring to.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So he's selling that old lie that getting a big rally or parade going is equivalent to votes cast and any numbers outside of those expectations is somehow a terrible injustice?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

People say he is the "master of the weaze".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Paulie Shore is the master of the Weaze, you might mean Weave.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I think you mean the master of Cheez-a.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

You're mistaking what he means for what I do.

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