Kind of feel like most people at least tolerated Man of Steel and Returns? Even when they didn't like certain aspects (like Snyder being on his Randian bullshit).
If it's an improvement you're in at least "that was okay" territory.
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Nah. It's like inflation - what was "good enough" in 2006 is underwhelming now. The Nolan Dark Knight trilogy and the Infinity Saga raised the bar and now audiences expect a superhero movie to be at least that good or it sucks. Most of the Multiverse Saga and the latter half of the DCEU would have been considered absolutely mindblowingly impressive in the 00s. Stuff like Aquaman, Black Adam, or Eternals would have compared very favorably to the kind of superhero movies we got in the 90s and 00s. Yes, that era had crackers too, but for every Blade you had a Blade Trinity; for every Spider-Man 2 you had a Spider-Man 3. For every Batman Begins you had a Batman & Robin. And the duds far outnumbered the classics.
So most modern superhero movies would have been considered amazing in that ecosystem. But we no longer have that ecosystem. There are so many superhero movies nowadays that it takes something really special to stand out from the crowd. Survival of the fittest has been dialled up to 11 and "ehhh, it's OK" is no longer good enough for most audiences. Thor: Love and Thunder was "OK". Blue Beetle was "OK". But in the 2020s, "OK" means "not worth the ever-rising ticket price"
most agree it's an upgrade from the Znyder
Yeah. We figured. Synder's Superman is interesting, but in many ways unfun.
and Singer takes
How dare they! Superman Returns is a national treasure. We waited a long time for a third Singer X-Men film to get it, so we should treasure it.