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Discord defends itself against efforts to stop piracy on its platform by saying no to more invasive data collection. Even though Discord isn’t exactly known for privacy, this is a great move for its users. What are your thoughts?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sad am forced on this app, I love matrix more.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, I have no First Amendment rights, so there's that.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've never played a Nexus game, and I'm definitely not going to start now. People who are pirating a game aren't usually doing it bcz they hate the company, or have a vendetta of any kind. It's usually a money issue. People are more than happy to pay for games when they have money, and you're not a shit company.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

No, it's a convenience/service issue. Last time i've seen a third-party launcher was Mirrors Edge on Steam proton, and that thing failed to run since it wanted to open more than my security limit of 50k files, which no game hit before.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

That's exactly what I'd say if I wanted to catch the bigger fishes.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago

The attorney called Nexon’s demands “improper and overly burdensome”

They will give you up in a heartbeat as long as they don't have to do the extra work of finding you.

Discord isn't protecting anyone's privacy just their bottom dollar

Discord is committed to fulfilling its obligations under the law

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Of course it's Nexon.

[–] [email protected] 213 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If they did not collect any information, they would not have any information to give when they are served a subpoena.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

How else would they store and sync the information?

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Encrypt it end to end with them not having the keys

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (6 children)

They do have to retrieve old messages when new users join though. I’m sure the government can force them to lett them in a server and unlock the roles

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Why?

Why is channel history needed for new users?

Back in the IRC days you joined a channel that was just empty, if you wanted the history you had to run an IRC client continously, I remember running screen irssi on a separate computer and sshing into the server, reconnecting the screen with irssi in it.

If you want the history automatically, you can't expect privacy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I remember running screen irssi on a separate computer and sshing into the server, reconnecting the screen with irssi in it.

I still do that today.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Because a lot of people go to discord servers to access existing information?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

That is a good point, I have never done that, and to me it is just a chat system....

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

90% of the reason I even have discord is because people much smarter than me use it to share information. Nobody uses other areas suited for sharing information anymore. It's either Reddit or discord.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Discord sucks and nobody should use it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Life has gotten better since I dropped it. Moved a dozen or so people over to Signal and have been running with that ever since.

I do miss the ability to easily stream games, though.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only thing that really sucks about it is that knowledge that was openly searchable is now locked away behind logins.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

no, you're also effectively locked out of any participation unless you provide an email address and phone number, which they won't even tell you about in advance but use dark patterns and gaslighting that they noticed "suspicious activity" to step by step first ask you for an email and then once that is validated they prompt you for a phone number. the only thing they don't do yet is ask for ID.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

I keep trying to take out my phone number because I don't want strangers seeing that shit, but... then "suspicious activity" gets detyected seconds later...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Validation level is set by server owners, you are unlikely to need to verify a phone number except in the biggest (and therefore spammiest) servers

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it doesn't seem to be server specific because once prompted there is no way to use the account again, even if you decided to just not use a server that may have these settings set.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Odd, I've never had that experience. Maybe you're using a VPN or something that makes your IP look more suspicious.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (5 children)

What's a good alternative that allows easy instant message, voice and video calls, and makes it easy to group my friends by game?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have been using revolt, going to setup my own server once I get better lol, last 3 times have been a cluster fuck to get it working. I got mattermost working the first try but it's a slack replacement not discord.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I get that they have different target user base, but honestly, what’s the difference?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Roles and permissions. Slack and mattermost is just allowed and disallowed to each channel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Steam group chat? It's structured in the same way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can create channels for people to join with Steam?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you open the friends window on the bottom it should have a group chats bar with a button to create a server and then it works like discord where you can add additional text and voice channels

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Steam has voice channels? 🤯

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago

While this is true, Discord has a massive user base, so it’s somewhat a privacy win for the common person

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (3 children)

its still the old chicken&egg problem: if you dont have communities you dont have users, and if you dont have users you dont have communities

thats why everyone sticks to discord

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Social inertia and an extra helping of users hate having to learn things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Matrix is promising, but I think it still could use a bit more polish. That said, I run a discord community, and soon one of these days I'm going to make a Matrix version of it and encourage users to try it out. Though very few probably will.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well, you are on Lemmy aren't you

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Well yeah, cuz there are quite a lot of communities and users already

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

We are all Estebiu alts.

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