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It's been trending this way for years, but seeing it graphed out like this is shocking.

What do you think are the effects of this drastic change?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

I met my partner through friends at the EXACT point where “Through friends” intersects with “online”. Interesting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

I wish there was some granularity to "online." I met my wife on a BBS in 94. It wasn't a dating site, it was a discussion board, and neither of us was looking to hook up with anyone. There are lots of things like that, but I'm guessing dating apps/sites are the biggest component.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

The number of people that met on BBS would probably not even register as a line on that graph, lol. You are a rare gem, good sir or madam.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Huh. I never knew that people really do meet at bars for more than just a one night stand.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It is more that you meet them for a one night stand. Then you decide to hang out later. Then you wake up one day and you two are married with children.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, one night stands can turn into lasting relationships. I know a decent number of married couples who met in zero-commitment contexts, whether it's a hookup from a bar or while on vacation in a tourist town or things like that. Or even meeting on a hookup-oriented app that somehow turned into a not-just-for-hookups service after becoming acquired by Match, but during the phase when it was most definitely mainly for no-strings hookups.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

It's almost like something happened in 2020 to cause a big spike. I wonder what that could have been, and if it is still the case.

Ah, life is full of mysteries.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

Except the graph ends with 2020, so I'm not sure it even includes whatever mystery events might have biased things towards online that year.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

I’m sure off loading the human mating ritual to profit driven companies will have no negative effects on society whatsoever, this definitely isn’t the horrors here to unseen except in the most dystopian of science fiction novels.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Is there anything we can't privatize for profit?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Can't privatize individuals' bodily functions, but you can enshitify the experience of all senses, "Want to turn off the lights at night? That's 5 dollars per hour. Want to enable the flush of your toilet? That'll be 7.50, thank you. In order to remove the noise from your apartment, please pay the subscription. If you want to get rid of ALL the noises, pay the diamond premium sub!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

Want to turn off the lights at night? That's $5 per hour.

And of course you will pay $6 per hour to keep them on, gotta squeeze 'em at both ends after all.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

To think it all started with DoD nerds hooking up in the 80s.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah not sure what they mean by "online" in the early 80s. That was even too early for BBS to really be a big thing. Like there were people out there messing with that stuff. I had a modem for my MSX in 80s, where you put the horn on the modem to interface. But besides from dialing my one friend who also had one and being amazed at the tech, it had no real use. The graph makes it seem like an actual percentage of people were not only online, but meeting their future partners on there? That makes me doubt the validity of this graph.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

Could be early IT people meeting secretaries and the like when visiting to fix the internet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't split, but I'd guess 99.9% of those online meets are dating apps (rather than other ways of meeting online).

That's kind of sad, not because there's any one way people should meet, but because meeting people is now mostly mediated through for profit companies.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You didn't meet your spouse on World of Warcraft?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

I feel called out lmao

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I like the idea of dating apps, but I don't like the implementation or at least how they end up being used where the focus is entirely on visual attraction. I don't particularly think or care about looks; I'm attracted to personality. Most people have blank profiles and just a lot of pictures, so I either have to decide to not like a majority of profiles or like everything just to maybe get a chance to talk to someone.

And it doesn't help having BPD and not really having a solid identity to tell people who I am in a single block of limited characters. So when nobody even communicates when you actually match, it just makes the whole thing seem pointless and stupid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

I met my wife through eHarmony. I tried the other apps available at the time (mid 2000s) and most were "profile pic & swipe" level of depth. eHarmony had a fee (so both parties were at least a little more committed to finding a partner, rather than "sign up for free account while drinking one night"). Also it had maybe 100(?) questions you had to fill out before it'd give you any matches... basically a quasi personality profile about what you were like and what you were looking for in a relationship. The result was fewer matches, but all the dates I went on were meaningful (eventually leading to ~15 years of marriage & 2 kids).

There's now additional dating sites beyond just eHarmony that have this barrier to entry which seems similar (although I don't have personal experience with those).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I have not online dated. Are the people with blank profiles interesting people at all? Or are they just there for a hookup?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

Kinda depends on their gender, in my experience. Guys without a profile and pics of just themselves not really doing much are usually just looking for a hookup. The girls without a profile are usually what is generally accepted as highly attractive and probably don't even care because everyone will like them.

I have yet to actually have someone talk to me on any of these apps beyond saying hello or asking how my day is. I had better luck actually finding people to talk to, get to know, then set up a date through Craigslist back when it had a personals section.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

The few times I’ve had friends set me up never ended well. Those were usually the worst, in terms of compatibility.

It’s funny I guess how friends view you. Either that or they just want their friend groups to be one big “family”.

I’m not surprised to see such a huge drop there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

I met my spouse online in the naughts, and it was unusual and required explaining to most people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Why does online shoot up as soon as it surpasses friends?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

It has to be smartphone apps coming out

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

For "through friends", I feel like a lot of larger friend networks have collapsed. People aren't friends with as many people as large get togethers have become rarer over time.

There are stories of people who met once at a long event and then maintained contact over time. Now, everyone would be on their phone.

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