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Awhile ago I saw post about having fun arguing with magats about going libertarian. Pretend to lump Trump in with then Biden now Kamala, as old Washington big wigs. Wanting to be free of big govt, ma freedoms, whatever. They were never gonna vote Democrat, but maybe stop em from voting Trump?
I have discussed politics with actual magats maybe 3 or 4 times since then. I think one actually thought about it. Pretty sure I saved America.
What if I told you... Harris needs to do more positive things to get voters to want to vote for her.
what do you mean "ours", did you mean "mine"? I don't know you and I'm not associated to any group except my family
So the main reason to vote for her is "I am not Trump". Is that it? I don't think that sound that good.
I think the only reason Republicans have for voting for Trump is "he is Trump". Did they release a platform this time or just repeat the one from last time that was just "what Trump says goes"?
If you had a choice between 2 cars and one explodes when you turn it on, are you really thinking about the merit of the other one's adaptive cruise control?
Then "this car doesn't explode AND has cruise control" is better than just "it doesn't explode".
i think the bottom text has it wrong.
this is probably a stronger argument to get people to vote for her:
what she'll do
what her opponent won't be able to do if she wins.
If we stopped constantly arguing logic and reason to people that clearly have none, and focused on discussions of how we improve the country through governance and policy, we could actually convert some of them. But If i were to imagine life as a Trumper all I would see is hatred towards me everywhere, why the fuck would I listen to people insulting me?
Not that this would happen because at the end of the day, both sides of the aisles have their fair share of people whose political ideology is just to regurgitate what their own social circles reinforce while simultaneously be unable to withstand some minor pushback on topics and then confirming to the other that they dont know what theyre talking about. And the media will constantly put a megaphone up to this ignorant minority so the other side can confirm to themselves how dumb that side is.
Shit half the time I try to make the point that most people voting for trump are doing so because of their social circles influence on them, and that we should try and treat them with decency if we ever want to change their minds, and I get downvoted into the floor and hear a bunch of "centrist bad" nonsense. Political parties are just sports teams to many at the end of the day, they were raised to follow one and think the other one sucks, and most involved don't realize how brainwashed they are that they now see the other half of the country as a hostile foreign entity.
Meanwhile capitalists rob us all blind and continue to spread this narrative that we should fight each other, so we dont unite against them.
My favourite is telling a trumper I don’t fucking care what they think.
Letting the air out of their sails is more entertaining when it’s become obvious they are living for the drama of controversy and feeling their opinion matters so much to someone else than the message itself.