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'Shaken': Analyst claims John Roberts has been left reeling from immunity ruling backlash (www.rawstory.com)

submitted 4 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Supreme Court Justice John Roberts has been left "shaken" by the unexpected public reaction to his ruling in the Donald Trumppresidential immunity case, a columnist wrote Friday.

Slate's judicial writer Dahlia Lithwick wrote that Roberts was left shocked that Americans didn't buy his attempt to persuade them that his ruling was not about Trump, but instead focused on the office of the presidency. The court ruled that a president was largely immune from criminal prosecution for official actions.

Lithwick referenced a report by CNN's Joan Biskupic. He “was shaken by the adverse public reaction to his decision affording [Donald] Trump substantial immunity from criminal prosecution," she wrote.

"His protestations that the case concerned the presidency, not Trump, held little currency.”

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I would be worried to if I had just given the president immunity for all official acts. Example of a worrisome formula: Biden + official act + seal team 6 + corrupt supreme court judges = no need to pack the court to give it a liberal majority.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Why is there a presumption of immunity? Even when there is clear self-serving corruption, the presumption of immunity takes precedence. This will go down in history as an abysmally bad decision.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Shaken? Right because you weren't being a partisan hack when the special counsel asked to skip straight to proceedings because they knew the court wanted to issue a ruling and you drug your feet buying donald time. Then handed him powers not afforded in the constitution. But keep clutching those pearls.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

This is why The French invented things.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

People like him dont get shaken about the opinions of the commoners. He couldnt possibly care less.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago

Roberts was left shocked that Americans didn’t buy his attempt to persuade them that his ruling was not about Trump, but instead focused on the office of the presidency. The court ruled that a president was largely immune from criminal prosecution for official actions.

AND WHICH FUCKING PRESIDENT'S ACTIONS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE, JOHN?

[+] [email protected] -75 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Remember folks: political violence is totally justified and not authoritarian a long as it's not against a Democrat!

Democrats are the chosen political party! They are better than you! They know what's best for you! Fuck you for having any ideals that go against their infallible ideology!

You're a stupid piece of shit if you aren't a Democrat! So you deserve violence against you!

It's not terrorism, it's "fuck you, you aren't a Democrat so you deserve it!"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

99% of political violence in this country is from your side, but its a classic republican move to attempt to blame everyone else with the charges of the stuff your side is actually doing itself. So you're just a tired and not very original liar/troll. Arent there snowflake/safespace threads you should be on? You might get your feelings hurt here or god forbid, talk to a female and that would be a real tragedy because you might go hurt someone because of it. Or kick/kill an animal seems to be the thing your side prattles on about lately isnt it.

But yes, boohoo you're a victim and dems are violent. message received.

[+] [email protected] -25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

" your side".

See, people just assume that if you don't agree with the general ideology, you are an enemy.

I tend to agree with most socially "left" ideas, but because I don't want tax money to go toward wars or abortion as a form of birth control, I am a totalitarian piece of shit.

There is no nuance anymore. It's always: "you are either with us or against us" mentality. And there is absolutely NO WAY you can tell me that's not the case (at least on social media).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

that is an interesting observation. The idea of coalitions has seemingly broken down and its as you said now for everyone-- you're onboard with whatever the dems or repubs say and do, or you are labeled as supporting the enemy and a memebr of their camp. And no one puts forth a platform or plans like they used to. What a time to be alive eh.

I do wonder if this is the end of the American government. It sounds alarmist and a little crazy but also plausible. Fundamental architectural peices of our government are breaking down-- like when the supreme court ruled that presidents are not legally unaccounatble and presumed acting legally no matter what they do. Its not just problematic its broken. So now we inevitably get to watch that break spectacularly., standing here with our genitals in our hands. Does that mean seal team 6 shooting Americans like the news said was possible? I dont know. But its legally allowed now, so...?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

See, people just assume that if you don't agree with the general ideology, you are an enemy.

You're the one that came in with "Democrats bad". This was about "of course presidents shouldn't have immunity FFS."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you feel the same way about medicine and food?

Democracy, medicine and food all have the same goal, making life better.

Being against democracy is like criticising someone for eating or using antibiotics.

Are you just admitting to being a complete moron here?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

Man, fuck off with this partisan bullshit

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago

Fuck him. Burn in hell fuck face.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Bullshit.

If he didn't expect it then he's a moron.

He is not a moron.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Either stupid or lying... possibly both but definitely at least one or the other.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I don’t know, money and position in a stratified social power structure are not strong indicators of intelligence

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago

Can't a man undermine democracy in peace now?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

well la de da. fuck him.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

He's an out of touch rich asshole. I'm less surprised at his shock than I am surprised by him giving a fuck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

He wasn't shocked and he doesn't give a f***. The article is just an attempt for him to garner sympathy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

You actually believe the headline?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago

Oh he’s shocked everyone else doesn’t suck trump dick?

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