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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every time somebody like this pops up, it's a great reminder that you can block people and you should block people.

You don't need to explain to this moron why he's a moron.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

You just waiting for me to respond so that blocking doesn't stop me from seeing this? Or are you just being a knob?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've heard this bullshit so many times...

What we call "morality" is simply put to words those behaviours that has made us a successful species. We are a communal species, one of our greatest strengths being the delegation and specialisation of tasks; all working together. Everything we've built, everything we've achieved, can be attributed to that feature of our species.

Now, imagine how far we'd get if every individual in our species acted "amorally".

Morality is a product of evolution.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago

Morality is a product of evolution.

Yes, and spirituality is the point between "premoral behavior" in animals, and "morality" as a unified idea in us as I have argued.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"Without the precursor of gender roles, there can be no morality."

"Without the precursor of tradition there can be no morality."

"Without the precursor of >insert social structure< there can be no morality."

Some of our social structures have things to say about morality. Sometimes they're saying"love your neighbor as yourself," and sometimes they're saying "burn that city to the ground and keep all of the preteen girls as sex slaves." Just because religion and spirituality have things to say about morality doesn't necessarily mean that they're worth listening too, and it doesn't mean we couldn't have developed a system of morality in their absence.

Without religion and spirituality, we may have developed a better, more universal system of morality, rather than the patchwork of haphazard and contradictory traditions we currently enjoy. We'll never know, because religion was created early in our history, and for the rest of eternity, we get to listen to asinine armchair theologians tell us "without religion, there would be no real morality."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

and it doesn’t mean we couldn’t have developed a system of morality in their absence.

The fact is we have no evidence to suggest our species has ever developed a system of morality without spirituality. Just because we may have been able to, evidence clearly demonstrates a trend of that either not working or not being an idea for precivilization humans.

Without religion and spirituality, we may have developed a better, more universal system of morality, rather than the patchwork of haphazard and contradictory traditions we currently enjoy. We’ll never know, because religion was created early in our history, and for the rest of eternity, we get to listen to asinine armchair theologians tell us “without religion, there would be no real morality.”

I am not arguing that religion is good. I am saying it was a means to an end, and we can point to all evidence we have and see that. Regardless of how you feel about it, not a single culture developed a moral system without first developing a spiritual one that we have evidence of.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I hate to throw out this old chestnut, but "correlation does not equal causation." Just because religion existed in one form or another in almost every single culture, does not mean it's necessary for morality. As I mentioned previously, lots of social structures existed in early societies that had things to say about morality. That doesn't mean they were necessary precursors.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It doesn't serve us well to murder our own communities. It doesn't serve us well to cause conflict and strife among ourselves when external circumstances are tough enough.

Living on the steppe or on the savannah would have been extremely tough, and I believe that pragmatism would have naturally lead to a sort of morality -- don't steal from, harm, kill, antagonise other people in your group or you're putting the entire group at risk.

It doesn't have to be spiritual or religious!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Even animals have some kind of morality

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Morality is inherent in mankind, even if many folks have the will to defy it or lack it altogether.

Religion emerged as a product of humanity’s profound drive for survival. The concept of death as a finite existence is inherently unacceptable to the brain’s survival mechanisms. Consequently, we developed religion and spirituality as coping mechanisms to address this existential dilemma.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

I'd say morality came first and people invented religion to justify the moral frameworks they already had. Cultures invented gods and ascribed their culture's shared moral views to their gods

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Ethical frameworks exist that don't rely on religion or spirituality. Utilitarianism, kantism, etc..

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