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Disco Elysium standalone expansion reportedly cancelled and quarter of staff facing redundancy at ZA/UM (www.eurogamer.net)

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[+] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Redundancy is very different to being fired though. When you're fired you just lose your job and that's it. If you get made redundant, you lose your job but get paid X amount of months worth of wages to make up for the fact you may be jobless for a while, while you look for a new one. X being different depending on both the countries laws and the company's policies. But usually it increases the longer you've been with the company.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I get the sentiment. But to me personally, "redundancy" is pretty clear and doesn't mask the pain that comes with being let go. There's also generally a difference between being "fired" and being "made redundant". Redundancy suggests that their job doesn't need to be done anymore b/c of a restructure, bankruptcy, merger, and the company needs to meet certain obligations for that redundancy not to be considered an "unfair dismissal".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That distinction means jack shit to the people that are "made redundant" and everything to the people that have an interest in marketing this as anything other than someone losing their job.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It does. Because being made redundant means you get a pay package when you lose your job. If you get fired, you get nothing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The article states the layoffs will affect the UK division and EU division, I am assuming you are basing your statement on US laws. https://www.gov.uk/redundancy-your-rights/notice-periods states that you will get paid for X number of weeks depending on how long you have been in your job.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I am in the UK, so I'm basing it on what I know of the UK

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago

It's a shame that people are being laid off, especially when it seems like it's retaliation for complaining about working conditions. Still, I don't think I'd ever be able to buy anything from ZA/UM after they kicked most of the creators out of the company and took control of the IP.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

I wouldn't want to buy an expansion from the people who stole Disco Elysium anyway.

How Disco Elysium Was Stolen From Its Creators

About the Disco Elysium Investigation (It's bad.)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Still do not understand how this wasn't hostile takeover.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

If anything the employees getting fired and the project being shitcanned adds another layer of social commentary

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The whole thing is such a clusterfuck. I've never played it but I can sympathize with how the fans have been jerked around.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

I sympathise with them, but played it without any insight into any drama. It's one of the best games I've played.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I you are into adventure games and/or like the idea of a story heavy rpg without combat I wholeheartedly recommend you trying it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I've tried several games like it. Arcanum being one of the most similar but I just can't get into that style, no matter how many times I've tried lol. Same reason I won't play Planescape: Torment. Just not for me. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I really wanted to get into planescape torment because I have heard amazing things about the writing and I have played decently far into the beginning (escaping from the body morgue complex into city) but the whole damn game is just grey and beige and I couldn’t take it after awhile lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I'm sure its got an incredible story and I'd love it if I actually sat down but im in the same boat. Just not interested.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not very much like Arcanum, though. Arcanum and Planescape are moer or less straight RPGs, Disco Elysium is practically a variant of a point and click adventure.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

It’s a point and click puzzle game with rpg elements, that’s how I’ve been explaining it

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago

Yeah, this seems like the business equivalent of a slap in the face to the original devs.