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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (7 children)

I had to read the second post twice to understand what it’s saying due to the non-standard grammar. But I’m a foreign speaker.

I’m asking an honest question out of curiosity: Was this easily legible to you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Yes, it was very clear (native speaker here). Something like this is more commonly spoken than written, so I can see why it might be confusing. If your experiencing with English is more formal (via education, reading, etc) vs talking to a whole bunch of different people, that would explain it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Was this easily legible to you?

Yes, very easily.

English doesn't have one standard grammar, but yeah this was pretty easy to understand for me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’m a native English speaker and had no issue… but I come across (or hear) contractions like “ain’t” often enough that it barely registers as being non-standard… just much less formal, really. Some punctuation might’ve helped you here.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The average American doesn't know what capitalism, socialism, communism, or fascism means. They don't know what representative democracy means. They don't know what first past the post means. They don't even know that they have an electoral college let alone its role. The 3 branches of government are largely a mystery. And most Americans are under some kind of impression that the POTUS is some kind of benevolent dictator.

I'm not surprised that someone on twitter thinks capitalism solves poverty.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"I resent the average american, someone smarter like me should dictate their lives"

Not a criticism of you, you're free to have your own opinion. I'm just saying the quiet part out loud.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You're arguing against your imagination.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm restating what was said.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Where do you believe it differs?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Alright, I'll bite

someone smarter like me should dictate their lives

You added that as what you imagined the original poster's point was, yet I see no call for action in their post. They simply made an observation. This would be like me saying "I notice that wild animals can often be aggressive when they have young children to protect", then someone else acting like my solution would therefore be to prevent them from having children.

It's a wild and unfounded extrapolation made from your preconceived notion of how this person thinks, based solely on their distain for the ignorance they've observed. I've seen many who make the same observation but their proposed solutions were better education, not dictatorial rule.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

You added that as what you imagined the original poster’s point was, yet I see no call for action in their post.

That's true and a fair criticism. I think its a pretty probable guess though.

but their proposed solutions were better education

Education is a complicated matter in itself, that I'd rather not get involved in here, but Prussian schooling has a long history of politically motivated meddling.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I read it as pro-political education. Something that many Americans are dearly missing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Something that many Americans are dearly missing

Yeah this is what I'm talking about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I find it confusing why you put that in quotes, then suggest it's not necessarily their opinion, but following it up by implying that was the implied statement.

The guy just said American political literacy is embarrassingly lacking, which is far worse than what is needed for a functional democracy. Which has nothing to do with your "interpretation"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (5 children)

then suggest it’s not necessarily their opinion,

I believe it is their opinion, I suggested that pointing that out isn't a criticism. Its a very common opinion.

The guy just said American political literacy is embarrassingly lacking

Because they don't know esoteric terms nerds like us argue about on the internet. They do know what they believe is right and wrong, and what they value in their lives. They vote for people who talk about what they value. You can criticize what they value, but that's just pitting your values against theirs. You can also criticize them for trusting, but if the last 20 years has shown anything, voters are actually not that much worse than technocratic governments at figuring out lies. And most lies that trick voters are lies to the people that tell them, or believe them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Gotcha. It's very effective if you want to make up stuff, and then argue that. But, in that case, don't you have better things to do?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

It’s very effective if you want to make up stuff, and then argue that.

Thanks for the insight.

But, in that case, don’t you have better things to do?

Procrastinating is fun.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

FD Signifier is THE youtuber that i listen to on black issues, and this reminds me a lot of this video

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

True? Yes.

Funny? Not really.

/c/depressing would be a better fit

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

agitprop does tend to get miscategorized, but "capitalism didn't solve white poverty," as-rendered there, registers to me as a grim punchline.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Except it's done more to solve it since anything that preceded it, so it's not only not funny, it's a misleading/disingenuous talking point.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think it's fucking bullshit they murdered Fred Hampton and got away with it.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Socialism is a cancer and Capitalism is, uh what cures cancer?

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