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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Your first (and only) premise is highly vulnerable. Socialism and cancer are two different things.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Capitalism is a free market.

Capitalism is, for example, being able to buy a pack of cigarettes at $15 and sell them $2 a pop on the street to make $40.

We don’t have a free market; therefore we don’t have capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Capitalism is not synonymous with markets. A market is a distribution system, ie how goods and services are allocated, not how they are produced.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

While on its face true. This is the libertarian equivalent of saying the USSR was not communist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

It isn't true on its face or otherwise.

Capitalism is a form of commodity production of competing Capital Owners that pay wage laborers to sell commodities on a market, seeking further and further accmulation.

Capitalism tends to monopolize into syndicates and eliminate its own competition. This doesn't mean it isn't still Capitalism, just that it's becoming Imperialism, ie moribund Capitalism, and that it is becoming ripe for central planning and public siezure. Capitalism develops towards Socialism, once the proletariat siezes control.

Meanwhile, the USSR absolutely was Socialist, complete with public ownership, a dictatorship of the proletariat, central planning, and more.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

$15 cigarettes?? Doesn’t sound like a free market to me!!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Capitalism is a form of commodity production of competing Capital Owners that pay wage laborers to sell commodities on a market, seeking further and further accmulation.

Capitalism tends to monopolize into syndicates and eliminate its own competition. This doesn't mean it isn't still Capitalism, just that it's becoming Imperialism, ie moribund Capitalism, and that it is becoming ripe for central planning and public siezure. Capitalism develops towards Socialism, once the proletariat siezes control.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Actually, I think it's a system which uses a medium of exchange to facilitate trade, e.g. capital. As opposed to a barter system. You can have a capitalist system without a free market. I think you could even have a communist system which uses capital to assign value, technically.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Not quite.

Capitalism is a form of commodity production of competing Capital Owners that pay wage laborers to sell commodities on a market, seeking further and further accmulation.

Capitalism tends to monopolize into syndicates and eliminate its own competition. This doesn't mean it isn't still Capitalism, just that it's becoming Imperialism, ie moribund Capitalism, and that it is becoming ripe for central planning and public siezure. Capitalism develops towards Socialism, once the proletariat siezes control.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Capitalist action to support communist ideals.

Analysis of true, lifetime cost tacked onto the purchase price.

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