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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

America is one of the richest countries, but life expectancy is so low because of all these inequalities and shootings.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago (14 children)

So here is a question:

A medical professional examined the person IN PERSON and has a requirement.

In comes the insurance to tell you your doctor is wrong and that you're perfectly fine, your doctor is basically lying to you.

Question: how the fuck did any of this ever become legal?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Question: how the fuck did any of this ever become legal?

I would guess lobbying.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Politics are dumb but very important.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Had surgery to correct an underbite a few years ago after prepping for it with braces for years. For context, I was still young enough to be on my parents' insurance. The surgery involved moving my upper jaw forward and my lower jaw back because the underbite was so severe. The insurance denied the claim. My parents (I love them so much for this) decided beforehand that, if the claim and the appeal were denied, they would instead "gift" me the money out of their own retirement savings and have me pay for it. The procedure alone cost, I believe, $16k out of pocket. (I don't remember the specific reason why they gifted me the money instead of paying for it outright.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It might be that you HAD to be the one to pay for it. When I hit a certain age, all the insurance cheques were made out to me, and I had to deposit them and transfer the money to my parents.

(Though this was insurance for therapy, so maybe it's different?)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Insurance wasn't involved when it came time to pay for the surgery. By then, they'd already denied the claim and the appeal, so they were paying completely out of pocket for the surgery.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago

Prior authorization should 100% be outlawed. It's either insurance adjusters practicing medicine without a license, or insurance doctors making diagnoses without examining a patient, both of which are unethical or illegal.

Though I think the real solution is a system where every time a prior authorization denial is overruled by the DOO or a court, the insurance company has to pay punitive damages of at least $200,000 to the patient.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Everyone should also remember that it's going to get worse. People, especially nurses, are leaving the medical field. GPs are becoming scarce, and boomers are taking more and more of the medical resources available as they age. It's going to get harder and harder to get timely medical care at all, let alone getting it without bankruptcy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Think we could make Lemmy a household name by having the C suite of companies that do this SWATed? The government doesn't work so we're going to have to do this ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

don't joke about that, you might cut into their profits if it happened. /s

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

American health insurance in a nutshell: https://youtu.be/llx-SaGq4Fs?si=eDIny0fqcGYFkB2a

And before non-Americans ask, yes, that's actually how it is. The humor in this video isn't from exaggeration, the comedy derives from the unexpectedly clear way the absurdity of the system is explained.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

it seriously blows my mind that the overwhelming majority of my fellow americans tolerate this system, that is if they don't downright approve of it. The issues mentioned in that video are not isolated incidents. They are common, everyday, business-as-usual practices that almost all of us deal with.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yep! The last bit is more of a joke, but the rest is pretty spot on with how the stupid system works. Here's another example of a video explaining US Healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The episode of South park where they walk into this 22nd century insurance building and ask to make a claim. They get sent to the "claims office" and it's like they went back in time to the 1980s with dot matrix printers, rotary dial phones, and fax machines.

Here is the link if anyone is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfy26xs6e0

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I love BDG, everything he makes is fantastic

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They hire doctors who can't handle being practicing doctors to prop up their delusions. I've only had one on the line in a dispute and he acted quite offended when I asked for his license to prove he was a real doctor. Turns out he was barely a doctor at all. He decided instead of practicing medicine and killing people he would work for a insurance company and kill them that way.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My insurance that I pay a ridiculous sum of money for has started doing this neat new thing. When the doctor orders imaging, they mark it as “requested more information but never received any”, and reject the claim. They don’t actually request any additional information, and they ignore me when I contest their decision. So glad that I pay like $400 per month for this coverage.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I file a complaint with the department of insurance instantly when they deny anything. I don't negotiate with them for 3 months first, I jump straight to sicking the Feds on them and my doctors have always provided me every bit of data I need and cheered me on.

And I've won every time. It annoys me that I have to do it, but I enjoy that it costs the insurance extra every time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I didn’t even know that was an option. Thank you! I will do that from now on.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yes, I think that's exactly what my doctor was trying to describe. He said if they're at that point, they basically have to guess what information they're looking for other than "I'm a qualified physician that has run diagnostic tests and determined this is the best course of treatment. Here are those tests and why it indicates X and therefore requires Y."

I've had to do unnecessary labs to prove an ailment wasn't something else that some person hundreds or thousands of miles away thought it might be.

If you think you hate insurance companies, find an honest doctor and ask them what they think of the US Healthcare system and health insurance. I've never seen a doctor so worked up and angry than when discussing the current medical system.

Edit: this guy is fun to watch on this topic: https://youtu.be/s33AVskz3T8?si=Qqx2nAJjguMOxnNL

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's like calling your ISP and you can see the fucking wire dangling down from the pole but they won't continue unless you turn the modem off and on first.

I worked in Pharmacy claims remediation for a while. Fun times. Never again. Why the fuck is my barely-above-minimum-wage-ass the one that has to tell medicaid that little Timmy is gonna die if he doesn't get his chemo?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because it's more profitable if Timmy dies. Why would they want effective, highly paid workers doing the job of trying to cut into their bottom line?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a modern war for a modern economy.

Instead of pitting the poor and destitute soldiers of opposing countries against each other in bloody combat, we have opposing corporations (in my case, the pharmacy and the insurance company) pitting their minimum-wage phone-jockeys against each other in a battle of wits when death is on the line.

Fortunately for our patients, I'm part Sicilian.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Fortunately for our patients, I’m part Sicilian.

Thank you for your service o7

No, unironically though, helpful folks in the healthcare industry despite the system's labyrinthine and hellish construction have kept me from several major breakdowns. You going to bat for the patients has likely saved at least one person from a psych ward visit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No way ? insurances have a say against the word of doctors ? I must be hallucinating, I thought I knew all about it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Well. No. They have a say about whether they'll pay for what the doctor has decided is best for the patient.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Last time my doctor had to bill my insurance he said he would just run it immediately, because apparently "routine denial" is a thing where they just automatically deny it because if you really need it the doctor will then have his office try again with more justifications. He hated this a lot, because it basically meant he had to just assume first denial for no real reason and then his staff had to take the time to almost always go back and resubmit. He said sometimes he would submit it with the info, it would be denied, and then he would resubmit it two more times and suddenly it would be approved.

Like seriously, what the fuck. But only does that hold up necessary care, it also makes doctors do more bureaucratic work and hire more staff, which, of course, makes medicine more expensive. Brilliant.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Shared risk pools are a good idea. Making them for profit is not.

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