this post was submitted on 06 Oct 2024
222 points (97.0% liked)

science

14779 readers
37 users here now

A community to post scientific articles, news, and civil discussion.

rule #1: be kind

<--- rules currently under construction, see current pinned post.

2024-11-11

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

NoviOcean’s wave power technology, developed over several years, has been tested in wave pools and a real environment near Stockholm. A small version powers homes on Svanholmen island, proving the concept works at sea.

On one square kilometer, 15 wave power plants can generate 15 MW, compared to offshore wind’s 10 MW. Combined, they can produce 25 MW, sharing the costs of the sea area and transmission cable.

According to the firm, the hybrid approach delivers more consistent energy, as waves generate power for days after the wind subsides. Additionally, wave plants can be placed closer to shore without visually disturbing the coastline.

top 23 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I would hope it would be at least slightly more well-designed than the render where the miniature windmills are positioned perfectly to block the solar

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

For fuck's sake, a microreactor could do all of this for the footprint of a bedroom (plus some additional space for the staff). It would work for years and constantly provide power with no issues from storms, dust, salt, or needing distributed maintenance (and environmental disruption) over a square km.

This isn's just some generic hand waving. Go look up the company Radiant. It's going to happen within a few years. Demonstration is slated for 2026.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So what are you saying, that we should give up on other technologies? Two years before your microreactor is demonstrated?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is a fanciful and complex power system that is proposed that cannot produce consistent power reliably. I don't think it will be viable in the long run.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

How is it fanciful? It's taking a bunch of solid, proven technologies and putting them in the same place. It's nothing more than a standard engineering project.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, I'm sold. We should definitely turn everything off and wait for the hypothetical reactor to materialise.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

That's not what I said, and your comment is disingenuous in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Relevant link for those interested in what OP is talking about.

https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/3-microreactor-experiments-watch-starting-2026

I’m not yet convinced this technology is the future or anything, but it does look pretty promising. We’ll know better when DOME testing begins in 2026.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

power 1,000 homes per day

Good that the journalist does not confuse kW and kWh but "homes" is a very understandable unit they somehow got wrong.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I thought wave generation was still a failure due to cost and maintenance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

there evidently exist, in this nascent technology, peaks and troughs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but the future seems bright.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Everything is too expensive and difficult until it isn't.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Where did you get that from? Some things just stay expensive and difficult.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Narrator: until it wasn't.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I get the appeal of having a mixture of renewable generation methods, but is it really the best way to jsht put them all on one structure? Do waves not somewhat inferfere with the action of both solar panels (which will not be properly aligned of they're rocking about) and turbines (which surely suffer if they are in turbulent airflow thanks to being jostled about)?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Honestly, I think this is cool, and maybe even efficient. But I laughed when I saw it: "let's put ALL OF THE THINGS ON IT!"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I speculate that this balanced out by the fact that a single one of these can more easily connect to the power grid and are more efficient to deploy and maintain in large quantities.

You could place these almost anywhere and they will generate something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I can definitely see them being useful in remote areas where large scale power generation projects are not viable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yea, but I would imagine the upkeep and maintenance on these, especially due to being in salt water, is higher than it needs to be. Simple is generally better for these things.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

The pictured kings of turbine works very well with wind from any direction. I'd be more concerned about having low friction bearings so cost to sea water.