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Google's notoriously wonky AI Overviews feature — you know, the one that repeatedly makes up facts and literally tells users to eat rocks — is about to get a whole lot more annoying.

On Thursday, the tech giant announced that its AI-generated search summaries will now begin to show ads above, below, and within them, as a way of demonstrating that the technology is capable of actually making money.

It will also serve to assuage concerns that AI chatbots could eat into search ad revenues, which are Google's biggest cash cow.

Now, if you search how to get a grass stain out of jeans, as seen in an example in Google's blog post, you'll get an AI summary which contains a carousel of relevant website links, plus a heavy helping of "Sponsored" ads for stain removers. Revolutionary stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

&udm=14 might still work for a while.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Honestly, switching over to SearXNG was the best choice I ever made. Not only do I not have to see this AI bullshit, but it's so refreshing to not have to append "reddit" to the end of nearly every search I do to find anything even remotely useful. Being able to self-host it is also really nice now that I've gotten it and nginx set up.

It ain't perfect, but the last time I felt like I discovered such a big improvement to using the Internet was when I found out about ad-blockers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I sure hope there is some mechanism to compensate content creators because without traffic, there will be no new articles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

On the upside, maybe the ads won't be as horrible as the AI results.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

if it was terrible before then this doesn't change anything

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Cool, now it's terrible and annoying. Use another search engine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

why would any of google's customers pay to stuff its ads into such a broken feature?

it's like embossing your logo within a toilet bowl -- sure, a lot of people will get to see it but mostly only when it's submerged in shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

because the feature works more than 1/3 the time (in my experience).

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You guys can hate on this but I, for one, have always dreamed of unreliable search results with links to relevant businesses embedded within the text. If only a voice assistant could read them out loud and also remind me to drink Pepsi every other paragraph, we’ll finally have achieved the promise of the Internet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Personally, I won't be happy until there are unskippable video ads before two pages of sponsored results with an AI summary somewhere in the middle of the third page of search results.

Of course there should be popups when advancing between search results pages.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Nah man, you want New Coke. Catch the wave.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Done with Google. Now paying $5 a month to use Kagi.com. Worth it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’ll stop going online before I have to pay for a fucking search engine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you are not paying then you are the product.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I don’t think that means what you think it means.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yup. I signed up to their unlimited a while ago, so I was happy to not notice this at all. 🙂👍

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

In case anyone reading this is curious, Kagi is not capable of storing the impossibly vast and expensive data storage and speeds required to query large indexes of the internet, and so leverages Google and Bing indexes in its search, which is exactly what SearXNG and DuckDuckGo both do for free.

What you pay for is honestly a fancy UI and the ability to quality control the search results for them, again already done for free by other search engines.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait, for real? I really thought kagi had its own thing going on, and that was why people would pay for it. Not like a fully bespoke index, but I assumed it was more than that. I guess the "quality control" is what I had heard about.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

There's no way on Satan's green earth that a small startup company started in 2018 has a search engine index as large and fast as the one started 30 years ago and has been indexing the entire internet since then (Google). Even Microsoft can't compete without dumping billions of dollars into Bing by forcing people to use it as default on their operating systems, renting/purchasing the now ancient Yahoo indexing databases, leeching software engineer talent from competitors with promises of huge paychecks, and greasing hands in China.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Same. Completed my switch this week on all my devices. No regrets. The results are excellent and well organized and it’s really useful.

Next project is to add the rest of my family to the family plan

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

AI as far as big tech is concerned is simply a way to "fix" search engines so that they don't do the awful crime of fundamentally segregating ads from search results.

it is literally the whole damn point of shoving AI down everybodies throat...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it is literally the whole damn point of shoving AI down everybodies throat...

To be fair, it didn't start out that way. A lot of tech companies just didn't want to be seen as being behind while OpenAI was making shockwaves around the globe. Iirc, after ChatGPT hit the mainstream a couple years ago, Google's CEO was said to have sent a company-wide email demanding their own AI research become their number 1 priority.

Now that they finally have their own competitive model, they have to justify why they spent hundreds of millions of dollars over numerous years on this tech. Unfortunately for the rest of us, this just means enshittification will reach new levels... sigh...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"This other company is lying about how good their product is and everyone is buying their bullshit. We can't miss the bandwagon!"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It would be hilarious if Pichai actually sent an email like this (or even more aggressive and truthful).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ads have become so deeply embedded into search results that even Google now can no longer tell the difference between them!?!?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It can, it's just unprofitable

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I wonder... how many months would it take even Google to sort it all out now, if it wanted to? At some point, even if they haven't crossed it yet, certain knowledge simply becomes lost forever.