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[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 week ago (4 children)

One thing I've learned is you can't engage in a rational debate with an irrational person.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

tolerance is a contract, not a gift.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

my fist is a gift to the faces of bigots

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

An open society that doesn't want the intolerant to undermine and topple it must be ready to defend itself - by reason and argument if possible, but these may fail because the intolerant reject reason itself. Force should be the last resort, but if all other means prove fruitless, it should be a resort still.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I appreciate this, I really do, but you do have to be careful not to end up like certain leftist Reddit subs where I got banned for the heinous crime of suggesting that voting for Harris might produce better outcomes than voting for Trump. Some level of discussion that goes beyond what the majority (or, lbr, the mods) think has to be allowed or you just have an echo chamber.

Granted, that isn't what is happening in the comic. The apologist here is genuinely advocating tolerance of Nazis. This situation is appropriate.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In my experience, most self-identified centrists, at least in the US, are to the right of what anyone reasonable would actually consider center. And I don't mean that in an "um ackshually the Dems are center right" way either, I mean they're often just Conservatives who don't hate gays (but do hate trans people) or something.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Thanks to you that apple is a Nazi now

/s just in case

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The apple fell somewhere completely devoid of apple trees and scientists could not trace it back to the tree of origin.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago

Woe, Tolerance Paradox be upon ye.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (8 children)

They're not really centerists, they're just trying to stir the pot. Jon Stewart had a really good podcast on all this on the Weekly Show. I could only find a youtube video on my laptop, I think it's the full thing by the time.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

No this is Bad Apple!!

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

…of at least one apple, sure.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can't explain stupid to stupid.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You kind of can, but for the most part, it is better to just not engage unless they are showing themselves to be an open and honest interlocutor.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

TIL the word "interlocutor"

"1. a person who takes part in a dialogue or conversation."

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago

But but my freeze peach!!1!21!

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