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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I feel like it's much more often someone being called left when they're really a liberal, fash, red fash, etc.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Economically I'm leaning right - I want the state to provide free healthcare, schools, universities etc but founding a company has to be easier, we can't afford to keep pouring 1/3 of our yearly budget into pensions on top of the budget for pensions etc.

Socially I'm leaning left - I don't care at all if someone is trans, homosexual, whatever, and want men and women to have equal rights.

So I am neither left or right. And there also is a party that aligns with most of my beliefs (and is against some others but there never is a perfect party).

The issue is that internet politics are often viewed from a USA-centric standpoint. When I say I'm neither left nor right (because it depends on the topic, as explained above) I see memes like that come up. Although my economically right views for my country would be far left from an US-american standpoint anyway.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Economically I’m leaning right - I want the state to provide free healthcare, schools, universities etc but founding a company has to be easier, we can’t afford to keep pouring 1/3 of our yearly budget into pensions on top of the budget for pensions etc.

The policies you listed would be considered left leaning. Conservatives generally want to defund healthcare, schools, universities, etc in favor of implementing a private for-profit model. Although, I'm confused what you mean by making a business easier to create, and what that has to do with pensions and putting in more than 1/3 of a business' operating budget into pensions. Seems like an unrelated issue.

Socially I’m leaning left - I don’t care at all if someone is trans, homosexual, whatever, and want men and women to have equal rights. So I am neither left or right. And there also is a party that aligns with most of my beliefs (and is against some others but there never is a perfect party).

Actually, your policy priorities you've listed here make you staunchly left on the political spectrum.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You're right wing. Just not a bigot.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Most of the time this exact meme is reposted by a red fascist zealot though

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Damn this hits. I've worked with a lot of guys who "don't vote, don't pay attention" that are defacto conservative in their beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Because if you don't pay attention you simply are ok with the status quo which is inherently conservative.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago

It's so funny to see Alex Jones present himself as above left-right politics despite constantly spewing far right BS.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, it's about the American political system. Well it's broken anyways, so that explains the many comments lacking any nuances.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Everytime I have a discussion with someone who says “both sides are the same”, they always end up voting right. I ask if both sides are the same why not vote left?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everybody votes right-wing in usa. There are no left-wing candidates just liberals.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Let's just start with the fact that American political system is super skewed to begin with and no actual left has any power.

Dems are highly pro-capitalist, moderately nationalist and merely call to strike a bit less horrible balance between the interests of people and businesses. This is not left, this is a bit better right.

This fallacy keeps people trapped in an idea that the only possible options are "good" ultra-capitalism and "greedy" ultra-capitalism, which is not true.

People that try to have "both sides heard" totally ignore that there are way more than two angles in this conversation and that Dems are not some sort of a political extreme. Reps, ironically, kinda are.

And Democrats often think they vote for something actually good, when it's actually just a lesser evil. Keep that in mind, no matter what you decide.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've had a guy tell me he votes for Trump because he's trying to take a balanced centrist view of things. But dude, if Trump is the center, wtf are your extremes?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Homie just heard a bunch of words online and attempted to string them together into a coherent political opinion. They failed, but hey they tried.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's weird how often people say they "Aren't for Right or the Left" and "Think BOTH parties are the problem", but only ever have negative things to say about the Left.

Concern Trolls are not your friends

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's weird how people think usa has a left-wing party.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It betrays a deep level of self-awareness of being on the "bad" side and knowing that if you say your actual values around a large number of normal people you will face criticism and attacks, so it's shame. Centerism is almost always some level of shame, or at best woefully immature ignorance of actual politics.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

"I'm no Trump supporter, but..." is the new "I'm no racist, but...".

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