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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

history degrees bell curve :

idiot end : I don't use my history degree

middle : history degree is useless

genius end : I am the MP for Gloucestershire and the cabinet minister for business

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I've been working through a few biographies of the top brass of Nazidom, and even with the rather perfunctory understanding I've gained from these books of Hitler's seizure of power and all that followed in Nazi Germany, my ears are pricking up in horror every day as I listen to the latest news from around the world. And I'm not even going so far as the Holocaust. If the Holocaust and WWII never happened, the Nazi regime would still have been an unmitigated nightmare.

The language certain politicians are using is plucked directly from the mouths of Goebbels' and Himmler's rotting corpses. How can they not see what lies ahead if they continue with this shit? We know how this story ends. We have examples of it from recent memory, we don't even need to cast our minds back to the 1930s πŸ€·β€

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 week ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Weird, that's also the only thing my Politic Science degree has ever gotten me!

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Boy I sure do love living through historical events that will likely end up in textbooks in the future

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bold of you to presume that people will be allowed to read about these times, in the future:-).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's why I said they'll likely be in textbooks, no guarantee lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Fair enough!:-)

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago

My history teacher said that the greatest curse you can give someone is telling them "May you live in interesting times" and boy do I feel that now.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

History majors rise up

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really have begun to believe that politicians should employ historians to give advice on certain political events by drawing comparisons to previous situations.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That only really works in a benevolent dictatorship. In a democracy, the masses can vote for reality-rejection candidates.

It's a pity democracy seems to be better than all the alternatives in practice, cause in principle there should be ways to improve things more. Inevitably though all other forms turn into draconian crap. Well, democracy does sometimes too, but less often.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (9 children)

What's odd about today's "democracy" is how increasingly little government itself matters, next to corporations that are stronger than nations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

It's like democracy is the least bad system...

A well crafted political system is one that stays uncorrupted the longest (or can recover less violently from corruption).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cyberpunk was supposed to be fiction, not a blueprint :(

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hegel remarks somewhere[*] that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Something something heglian dialectics, something something new vegas, something something "Fuck caesar,blow his ass away, and Legate Lanius too"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This fantastic opening quote must have also been Marx's weirdest flex.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 week ago (8 children)

As someone who consumes a lot of ancient history, it can also make you like β€œAh yes, another city rises, another is displaced by climate disaster, and another falls due to land mismanagement. β€˜Tis the way of things.”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Civilizations of a heirarchal centralized type definitely feel like temporary abberations, after reading Graeber and Wengrow

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Nonsense, I look on Ozymandias, king of kings' works daily and despair!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was literally thinking about this poem moments ago.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

It's one of the greats.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Same. I haven’t used my history degree at all. It has just enabled the β€œoh, fuck” overdrive in my brain over the last several years. I hate it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well you know what "they" say: those who study their history - FUCK! - still end up repeating it, when nobody else around does the same.:-(

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do learn from history are doomed to look on helplessly as everybody else repeats it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

And due to such things as gerrymandering, we all get to share in the outcome.

Another thing that "they" say:

A stitch in time saves nine

It is not for me to judge exactly, who was not quite there, but very little of what has been done has been performed in secret. People have been watching, and yes even warning us, every step of the way. Now, people are shocked, Shocked I say, SHOCKED, but... we should not be. We all knew, or at least were warned, about the consequences, we simply chose to ignore it all.

e.g. Brexit looks to be something that can never be undone - as in even if it were technically to be done, the UK will never hold such a place of prominence again. It will fade into obscurity, eventually counting itself lucky to join the EU on whatever terms the latter will choose to dictate at that time.

And the USA looks likely to not survive to see that happen - in its current form at least. Assuming that Trump loses the upcoming election, which seems still roughly 50% at this juncture, the Supreme Court shenanigans, the absolute, I mean near-total brokenness of Congress, and the very next election in little more than 4 years time still await. And this time, whoever sits atop the Executive Branch will have the legal authority to assassinate all of their political rivals. Like Brexit, this is by no means over and done, and we can still go so much lower from here.:-(

Which might not be such a bad thing after all, to replace a broken system with a better one, but I do worry about this transition period.

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