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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Not OpenAI, now they will be ClosedAI :

... complete its planned conversion from a nonprofit (with a for-profit division) to a fully for-profit company.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

God I hope they crash and burn

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Sounds like a bubble.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Oh good! I remember when they said they couldn't afford to pay independent copyright owners. Now they can pay for the work they stole!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Burst. Buuuurst. Buuuuuurat

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I can't wait for this current "A.I." craze to go away. The tech is doofy, useless, wasteful, and a massive energy consumer. This is blockchain nonsense all over again, though that still hasn't fully died yet, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

It has its uses, but it is being massively overhyped.

Having trialled Copilot and a few other AI tools in my workplace, I can confidently says it’s a minor productivity booster.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

This work will have lots of applications in the future. I personally stay as far away from it as I can because I just have zero need for it to write souless birthday card messages for me but to act like the work is doing nothing is kinda stupid.

Every stage it’s been at people would say “oh this can’t even do X” and then it could and they’d so “oh it can’t do Y” and then it could and they’d say…do I really need to go on?

The biggest issue with it all right, for me anyway, now is that we’re trying to use it for the absolute dumbest shit imaginable and investors are throwing tonnes of money, that could solve real problems we don’t need AI for, into the grinder while poverty and climate change run rampant around us.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Like blockchain there is some niche usefulness to the technology, but also like blockchain it's being applied to a myriad of things it is not useful for.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Also it’s not fucking ai is it. I actually find the blatant misuse of this term incredibly annoying to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It is, machine learning, neural networks and all the other parts in LLMs and generative algorithms like midjourney etc are all fields of artificial intelligence. The AI Effect just means the goalposts for what people think of as "proper" AI are constantly moving.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This might be the case ‘in the industry’, but I would argue quite strongly that it represents a gross misuse of the word ‘intelligence’. Like a fun new definition of the word, that doesn’t mean anything close to what it usually means.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The term AI was coined in 1956 at a computer science conference and was used to refer to a broad range of topics that certainly would include machine learning and neural networks as used in large language models.

I don't get the "it's not really AI" point that keeps being brought up in discussions like this. Are you thinking of AGI, perhaps? That's the sci-fi "artificial person" variety, which LLMs aren't able to manage. But that's just a subset of AI.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

‘Intelligence’ requires understanding. The machine has no understanding, because it is not conscious. You can fiddle around with the definitions of these words until you’re blue in the face but this will be true in rain, sun, hail, puffed wheat, etc.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Did you check the link I posted? The term "Artificial Intelligence" is literally used for the sorts of topics in computer science that LLMs fall under, and has been for almost 70 years now.

You are the one who is insisting that the meaning of the words should now be changed to something else.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Arguably you are the one misusing the term. Even painfully mundane tasks like the A* pathfinding algorithm fall under the umbrella of artificial intelligence. It’s a big, big (like, stupidly big) field.

You are right that it’s not AGI, but very few people (outside of marketing) claim that it is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’m going to argue quite strongly that my general, all purpose understanding of the words ‘artificial’ and ‘intelligence’ constitute the ‘correct’ definition for the term, and I don’t really care how ‘ai’ is defined ‘in industry’. It’s not intelligent, therefore it’s not artificial intelligence. You can redefine ‘intelligent’ in this context to mean whatever you like, but unless the general definition of the word changes then it doesn’t mean jack about shit.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why not just withdraw that money in banknotes, and burn it in a stove?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Hey you know as well as I do that that money belongs in the money hole. 🕳️

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[–] [email protected] 171 points 2 months ago (14 children)

I really don't understand the hype about AI in it's current state.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

It’s just the new grift. There’s probably some value in there somewhere, some elements of it that will evolve into useful tools that get used a lot and presumably make a bunch of money for someone but yeah. Grifters gonna grift.

[–] [email protected] 146 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's not for you. Its for corporations who want to fire half their staff and replace them with an algorithm. That's why it has such a high valuation.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 months ago (42 children)

Those corporations are about to find out the fun way that these algorithms, in their current and near-future states, cannot replace human beings.

Well, except for maybe lazy copywriters who pump out pointless listicles and executives who do - whatever it is they do - but any non-trivial task requiring creativity and understanding is beyond these tools.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

You must not be feeling the AGI.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

MBA degrees are way too easy to obtain. And the federal government bailing things out for a few decades has taught the market that they can take huge risks without much direct risk.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not related to the technology, is the venture industry trying tp figure out the next unicorn, which they have been trying to find for the last ten years.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Cloud? Neva heard of it! AI is where the money is at now.

Buzzwords, that's all they are.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It’s all leading to one final product: VR sex robots

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, I can say I don't really get it either. I would only use the open source models anyway, but it just seems rather silly from what I can tell.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you trying to solve science with it or something? You are supposed to turn carefully worded sentences into funny pictures and show people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe that explains it. Because I am blind, pictures mean very little to me. I think image memes were one of the most abhorrent things to ever exist. Because I miss out on so much because of that.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I would only use the open source models anyway, but it just seems rather silly from what I can tell.

I feel like the last few months have been an inflection point, at least for me. Qwen 2.5, and the new Command-R, really make a 24GB GPU feel "dumb, but smart," useful enough so I pretty much always keep Qwen 32B loaded on the desktop for its sheer utility.

It's still in the realm of enthusiast hardware (aka a used 3090), but hopefully that's about to be shaken up with bitnet and some stuff from AMD/Intel.

Altman is literally a vampire though, and thankfully I think he's going to burn OpenAI to the ground.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I'll give ya tree fiddy. Final off her.

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