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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People think emulator protections in the law are stronger than they really are. Sony vs Connectix made emulation legal, but it wasn't heard by the supreme court. PS1 games weren't encrypted and relied on other methods like disc wobble to prevent piracy...so without proactively violating any measures you could just not include that check in your competing emulator and play retail discs without breaking any laws.

In steps the DMCA anti-circumvention laws for bypassing video game / console encryption measures, which is an even bigger untested minefield without precedent in favor of emulation. And since games are default encrypted on new consoles and arguably not subject to exemption (at least while still supported) it really might be a disaster to fight it.

Nintendo is a dick but it's not in our interest or theirs to really push the boundary on the status quo. The get to slap suit whatever they want taken down, we get to play the emulation hydra game where it's still legally grey.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

If they had an actual plan or history of preserving games I'd not care about emulator development. But with the industry track record being so poor we need emulators if for nothing else for preservation.

So much culturally interesting data has already been lost to time which I bet future historians would absolutely love to have access to. The internet archive is missing much of the early internet, while old iPhone and Android apps are largely unable to be run even if you have the APK/IPA required,

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Personally I don’t give a flying Fuck what the law says, breaking copyright is the only thing preventing the world from being more of a dystopian nightmare with subscription mice and trains that break down if you take them to a mechanic and I can’t wait for someone in china or India to take the Open source code and make a better emulator.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I care what the law says if it's wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Flathub ia still available to whoever needs it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Obligatory fuck Nintendo, but I also blame the selfish dumbfucks who keep posting videos of themselves playing unreleased games on YouTube and Reddit. If you want nice things contingent on having software which exists in a legal gray area, don't openly poke the litigious hornets' nest.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Never give Nintendo money.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

As with Yuzu, I won't be buying any more switch games. I'll still be playing switch games, and so will my friends, but we won't my buying them.

Honestly, I've lived watching emulators for decades. They can come and go and there's always more, even ones that aren't forks. Just today I was reminiscing on my first emulators, zsnes, no$gmb and nesticle. Y'all remember the peaceful zsnes snowfall? Good times.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Go to hell Nintendo. I will never buy anything from them again and I will advise gamers I know to do the same.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I know it's not happening, but I'd love it if Nintendo went the way of Sega, and just made games. They've always been hit and miss with their consoles anyway, it's the games people love. Just fuck it, start releasing games for multiple platforms and focus on what you're actually fucking good. Pipe dream, I know

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I imagine Nintendo could make a tonne selling Zelda games for PC for 1.5x what they normally charge, simply for performance and controller compatibility.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't switch games already cost more than PC games, I kinda doubt people would be willing to pay even more.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Right?

If they hate emulators so much, why aren't they selling native x86 versions?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (8 children)

There were so many Nintendo apologists when Yuzu was taken down because "Yuzu used actual nintendo source code, so that's why they were taken down, it won't happen to Ryujinx." Yet here we are. Nintendo is by far the shittiest company when it comes to protecting their IP, because it's all they have. Turns out, Mario is a fucking bootlicker

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand how people think getting rid of emulators is good. Having emulators is better as a consumer than not having them at all, since it can give gamers more ways to play their games and might incentivize Nintendo to add features to compete with emulators (think better res and fps, mod support, save states, no online requirement).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Nintendo fanboys are a special breed of stupid, arguing with them about Nintendo's policies and anti consumer practices is just a wasted effort.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Because a subset of people are and always will be idiots. Remember: some people think unions exist to steal your money, socialism is communist dictatorship propaganda, and privatization of government services is good for everybody.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Yuzu was like that soon after being taken down. I assume Flathub has some sort of delay.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

And now I regret not copying their repo to our Forgejo instance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

And then nobody ever made another emulator for Nintendo products again and this definitely does not foreshadow an endless game of whack-a-mole powered by spite.

Surely not.

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