There it is, "I don't know the details. But let me tell you about my kids again"
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Polymarket currently has Walz at 59%
https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-win-the-vp-debate-according-to-polls
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Vance: “Our policies aren’t our policies. We actually support your favored policies. You’re not allowed to fact check me. I’ll go back to our real policies tomorrow.”
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JD got upset when Tim said Minnesota has the lowest teen pregnancy rate, it's kind of his thing
Kind of interesting that the "get under his skin" thing is kind being deployed against Walz a bit here. He's not Trump, so he's not flying off the handle, but he's losing his cool occasionally. I actually think that could work in his favor if he can channel it effectively. I think an angry Walz, within reason, could be really effective to counter robo-vance.
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There is this face that Vance makes while Walz is talking where he looks at the camera and sort of rolls his eyes.
Idk why but it's kind of funny to me
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“Why won’t you rebut my lies?”
“They aren’t true”
“Ok but like why won’t you explain how?”
Vance digging deep into the reddit school of debate. ‘Explain to me how my lie is untrue please. I’ll derail all other talk until then.’
JD “Spez” Vance
Many women who want families or already have families are devastated by your draconian ‘care’.
How are you wrong? In every single way, Vance. Just like on nearly everything, you have no empathy and can only see black and white when the world is many shades of grey.
walz is getting so annoyed at vance bald face laws. vance trying to distort walzs own law. man walz is doing a good job of restraining himself though.
That's because he's a genuinely nice person.
"Should we force catholic hospitals to do abortions?"
No. Because there shouldn't be catholic hospitals.
"Do you want to support Catholic hospitals to perform abortions against their will?" FUCKING YES.
There shouldn't be catholic hospitals
Agreed, but that's a separate issue. There are Catholic hospitals and while those hospitals exist, they have to be forced to perform abortions if the woman's life is at risk.
Agreed. What else can they opt out of based on religion at that point? They could claim they don't help Muslims due to religious beliefs. They could claim they won't help women who don't listen to their husbands.
Fuck off. It’s not about wanting families. Your policies turn women into walking coffins!
e: not even one woman anywhere, ever, should have to endure that, if it’s at all preventable. For anyone who doesn’t know, this can easily fall short of all legal exceptions for weeks, because the mother’s life isn’t actually in danger at first – though her sanity is, and it’s inexcusably barbaric.
Vance lies like he breathes, but he isn’t mentally addled like Trump. He’s a threat. A long term threat.
Yep. Fortunately, Walz is doing a good job of neutralizing his crap.
Yup. He's very slick and relaxed up there. Completely full of horrible ideas and deception, but he's unfortunately doing better on the optics and sound bitey-ness.
Vance: "Women don't trust us because we are against abortion. We'll make them trust us by making fertility treatments more accessible."
What?
Walz seems really nice. And the VP doesn't usually matter that much. But it sure would be nice if that was Buttigieg or Shapiro up there. Buttigieg loves sparring with Republicans. He is a great attack dog, but thats not really what Walz's role seems to be, and that's OK, but considering the election is a coin flip, I just want every fraction of a percent of support Harris can get.
In this case the VP matters, because for all the ‘Biden is too old’ talk, trump is only a couple years younger, and he could easily drop dead during a next term, which would leave us with president Vance.
eta: and the reason Buttigieg or Shapiro weren’t chosen was because, according to reports, an extreme life colonoscopy was performed on anyone under consideration, because trump’s camp would also do that and capitalise on anything they found. Walz passed all those tests because he’s squeaky clean. In this election, that’s pretty important. So far, that strategy has worked, and every straw trump’s team has grasped at has blown up in their face. We’ll soon see if this debate changes that (I doubt it).
Well, first of all.
Well... First of all.
First of all.
Well. First of all.
They’re both soft-balling this. Lean harder, Walz. He’s giving you ammunition!
Oof, that Walz fumble. That probably became a GOP talking point on Twitter before Walz had a chance to regret what he just said. That is going to be the "We beat medicare!" and "They're eating the dogs!" moment of this debate.
Eh, I don't think so. Yes, it was a fumble, but not a devastating one. And Vance is just constantly lying, then getting called on it.
Precisely.
Maybe people don’t agree with you because you’re a misogynistic dipshit.
So your ex-baby mama is watching. I feel bad for her for ever having crossed your path.
you want to help people to afford babies vance. how about funding education nationally with three meals provided each day. oh and maybe healthcare. that would help.
Vance: Smoke and mirrors, we want to do better.... but we won't.
Vance is now pro-abortion exceptions? Are you kidding me?
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guys I thought Walz would be doing better
I was hoping for a bit more also. JD is definitely coming off more organized. He's still full of it and dodging a number of things, but he's much more comfortable than Walz.
Excellent answer. Humanizing the issue, giving practical information, and raising project 2025.
Here we go. Yes, women’s rights.
Here we go, reproductive rights.
Oh yeah, tariffs. Please, increase inflation for all of us who can’t even afford shit now.
And your orange god sources his shitty Wish watches from China, what are you talking about?!?
so obsessed with impeaching donald trump. yeah well that happens when you use the us presidency for blackmail. Its not obsession when a person is actually being corrupt.
"I've been consistent" says JD.
Consistently lying.
yeah I love walz is doing so well but vance said practically the same thing with maybe the order changed a bit throughout this "debate".