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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

lmfao this explains everything about the fediverse right here

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

we know

And they're somehow surprised they're not getting more donations.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I’ll never understand anybody who isn’t skeptical of what America tries to say about it’s enemies anymore. I don’t know if there’s a genocide happening in China. But most of the world except the United States seems to think there isn’t. And that’s a big fucking red flag to me.

If there is one happening and people are being propagandized into denying it, I blame the United States whole heartedly for the embarrassing amount of disinformation they shit out on a daily basis about China.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Wait you blame the US for you denying the Uyghurs are being wiped, because checks notes they're telling you about it ?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’ll never understand this US-centric, bigoted dismissal of anyone and everyone through the lens of American exceptionalism.

You are the problem you so loudly complain about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That’s because American exceptionalism is a lie and you’re too stupid to see that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

They're not arguing for american exceptionalism, dude

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And this most of the world is...?

Because the United Nations most certainly recognises the genocide, as do many other independent human-rights organisations. oh and the leaked documents.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

lol and of course now we hear crickets

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Was gonna refer to the UN rapport as well before I saw your comment.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Looks like more of a semantics argument to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That is what the genocide denier wants you to think. It obviously isn't a semantics argument though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I still wouldn't base my entire opinion on someone over one discussion regarding whether something is or isn't a genocide. I hope he doesn't like diet coke or chew with his mouth open.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's why we refer to international organisations, or the United Nations

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

UN is not calling it a genocide though? The entire report your link refers to does not mention genocide. It does make a clear point of massive discrimination etc though ä.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

The UN can't classify acts as genocides as per its rules. However, it can supply resources for independent international organisations to come to their own conclusions, in which case, most classify it as a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This link doesn’t support the claim that the UN called these events a genocide. It lists all sorts of human rights violations on a massive scale, but it doesn’t use the word genocide.

I suppose the crux of the matter is that it was the USA, not the UN, and then some of its close allies who named the events a “genocide”.

After this the frontiers harden, nobody talks any more about the actual events, but about the terminology.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

The UN can’t classify acts as genocides as per its rules. However, it can supply resources for independent international organisations to come to their own conclusions, in which case, most classify it as a genocide.