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Top Muslim-voter organization endorses Harris as Middle East conflict escalates (apnews.com)
submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Emgage has been criticized by Muslim organizations, including the U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations, the umbrella organization for Muslim advocacy groups in the US for its ties to groups involved in anti-Muslim and anti-Palestinian activity and which attack elected Muslim lawmakers like Ilhan Omar. After these went unaddressed, the Council severed ties with Emgage.[11][12] Emgage denied the accusations, which it described as a product of "ideological cancel culture".[13]

A PAC is still a PAC no matter what you name it lol. Ain't no way Dearborn is going to gladly accept getting screwed if Harris refuses to change her stance.

They didn't vote for Clinton and she wasn't even that bad compared to literal genocide.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I want to minimize Palestinian suffering as much as possible. There is clearly a worse option and no alternative to Trump and Harris. There's only one way to reduce harm. I hate that I have to keep doing this lesser of all evil shit but that's what we're living with right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hate that I have to keep doing this ...

A lot of people have reached that point and checked out. Kamala could do a lot of things to get people back on board though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But it doesn't change the fact that I am voting for the outcome I want that is reasonably available to me based on the options.

I think it's disingenuous for the green party to say that a vote for them is a vote to stop the genocide. There is literally no scenario where the genocide stops if Jill Stein gets 4% of the vote. All it does is increase the chances of another trump presidency. And while I would rather have green party politics, I am under no illusion that they have the faintest chance of actually getting them in place.

I also understand some Palestinians voting down-ballot and ignoring the Presidential race after having lost friends and family to the foreign policy of both candidates. I couldn't imagine the pain of voting for your (or your family's) oppressors or their enablers.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

I understand your position. I'm going to keep withholding my vote in the hope there are enough of us to make Kamala earn it back with policy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

~~I think you missed the word "don't"~~

Me fail english. I misread what OP was saying. Sorry, my bad

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

All good.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I thought that at first too. Then I realized that it wasn't a rhetorical device and that they literally meant that they want to reduce Palestinian suffering.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I believe they meant they wanted to see actions that minimized Palestinian suffering, not “I want to speak as if I’m minimizing the importance of Palestinian suffering”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Actually, rereading the post, I think they had it correct. The "don't" would in fact be the opposite of what they said, and that doesn't make sense with the rest of the context.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

wow, this implies that there are Muslim voter organizations undecided or endorsing dumps.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Trump obviously doesn’t want any brown people in this country. Building a wall, Muslim ban. Does that go for the 15% of Indians that practice Islam? Watch out Hindu’s, you’re next. I don’t understand how he is even considered an option.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Waiting for all the chuds who scolded me for “not listening to Muslim voters” when I argued exactly this to form an orderly queue and apologize one by one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Don't worry, they'll assure you that American Muslims are just 'white' and 'settler-brained'.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

But, but, but, Jill Stein will stop selling weapons! 🤪

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I finally figured out how to shut up/shut them down.

I simply point out that as an educated man, Ho Chi Minh would have known all about America's long history of expansionism, racism, and imperialism. That didn't do anything to stop him from working with the American OSS when it was time to fight the Japanese.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

God, I wish we backed Ho Chi Minh instead of the fucking French.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Think of it this way. Dick Cheney is an oil man who has been involved in politics all his life. As far as I have been able to find, he doesn't speak any Arabic. The same thing was going on in 1945; "educated" leaders who had no idea what the people they were dealing with were actually thinking.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“This endorsement is not agreement with Vice President Harris on all issues, but rather, an honest guidance to our voters regarding the difficult choice they confront at the ballot box,” said Wa’el Alzayat, CEO of Emgage Action, in a statement. “While we do not agree with all of Harris’ policies, particularly on the war on Gaza, we are approaching this election with both pragmatism and conviction.”

Kamala is the only option forward, that doesn't mean she's immune from criticism and we shouldn't demand more from her.

She's not Biden, there's still a good chance she listens to voters.

And we're sure as shit not republicans, be wary of anyone that tells you just because trump exists, it means we can't criticize anyone with a D by their name. That's literally the attitude that got republicans trump in the first place, being willing to accept anything when the alternative was Hillary.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

A corollary to this is that if Harris doesn't listen after 2024, we as voters might be better positioned to push for better policies from Dems with someone new for 2028 or even 2032.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago

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