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Conservatives don't understand how to human. (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They also conveniently forget how recently these jobs were hailed as being essential to the function of society....covid taught us nothing lol

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[+] [email protected] -15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (9 children)

"Did you have this list of people you don't respect (I assume, because I can't fathom a criticism of paying someone more than the value their labor creates, therefore I'll just assume it's actually a value judgment of the person themself) ready to go, person I made up for this fake conversation?"

lol, come on now

E: Stereotypers mad

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I've had dozens of conversations that went just like this. As long as a decade ago from fuckin cable pullers and surveyors (the ones that hike through shit and snow with flags not the engineers) making 14$ an hour in Alberta when everyone else that flew out there was making 30+. You could make the same shoveling shit back home and they were upset about BC paying Tim's workers 18$ at the time.

People are fuckin stupid and unaware. So they guess, wrong at their situation 99% of the time because some yokel in a suit pointed fingers at a convenient distraction that plays on their already present xenophobia. None of their "issues" were geographically or economically pertainent to themselves but they liked to bitch about them all the same.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've had these talks with people.

Like they get upset because they see a ice cream shop advertising $18/hour for a cashier and getting pissed at that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Bitch, that's your free market at work!

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Y'all know that trick for toddlers where you give them a choice between two things so they don't throw a tantrum? Maybe we could try that.

"We can either raise the minimum wage to $22--"

Conservative: "NOOOOO don't WANT THAT, don't want! Poor people will TAKE ALL THE CHEESEBURGERS"

"--Or implement UBI. How does that sound?"

"...Ok."

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why aren't conservative parties illegal worldwide yet?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Because banning people you don't agree with from running for Congress is fascist, even if it's for what you believe is the right reasons. Everyone has a right to vote for who represents them, even if they're garbage.

[+] [email protected] -10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Nah, fuck that shit. This shit (https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/worlds-top-1-own-more-wealth-95-humanity-shadow-global-oligarchy-hangs-over-un) is enough justification to treat right-wingers and their financers as Pinochet treated socialists.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Authoritarianism is cool when you’re the one being an authoritarian.

Really sucks when someone you don’t agree with decides what is allowed or not.

If you give a government power to decide who is allowed in the government, even if you think it’s for the right reasons, you’ve now created a system where all it takes is one or a few people to turn a utopia into a grueling dictatorship.

That’s not really a good gamble

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If we want to get out from the late capitalist dystopia, repression against reactionary forces is the only way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And then what? Yes, identifying and resisting an oppressive power structure is all well and good, but any revolution has to grapple with the fact that you will still have a massive population with cultural and ideological structures that can only conceive of the world in terms of the old system. Congratulations, you've toppled the government and now you have the power to implement a new system. What will you do with that power? Will you implement yet another system in which there is a powerful in-group that the law protects but does not bind and a disempowered out-group that the law binds but does not protect?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (5 children)

you will still have a massive population with cultural and ideological structures that can only conceive of the world in terms of the old system

We force them in the new system

Will you implement yet another system in which there is a powerful in-group that the law protects but does not bind and a disempowered out-group that the law binds but does not protect?

No, the new system would be "right-wingers and rich lobbyists fuck off while normal people thrive and late stage capitalist dystopia is finally unwinded, and whoever opposes it gets rekt"

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Sure, let's kill or jail everyone we disagree with. Surely that won't lead to anything bad, right? It's not like this hasn't happened before and lead to millions of deaths or anything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oooh! A Purge!

Its been decades since humanity has had a good purge.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Isn't there one happening in Gaza right now?

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

A sacrifice to be had for a better world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You know, maybe casually advocating for the torture and/or deaths of millions of people might be the sign that you need to go touch some grass.

Like, seriously... do you even register what you sound like?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

The point is that GOP and similar POS right-wing parties all over the world, all in the pockets of oil companies and rich lobbyists, have ruined the world long enough. Time to give 'em a taste of their own medicine.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Unless it's you. Then it's fascist horror.

As long as it's your beliefs that are being forced, genocide is a-ok!

Because you are super smart and know what's best!!

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others!!"

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