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‘It’s too late’: David Suzuki says the fight against climate change is lost - iPolitics (www.ipolitics.ca)

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How to say Marx was right without saying "Marx was right".

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (12 children)

Fuck that. It's never lost, it's just that we are constantly heading towards worse outcomes.

If we as humanity start taking it seriously tomorrow, it would still be a victory over only starting in a decade.

It's not lost, it's just getting worse, and that should make people want to fight.

saying that the fight is lost is just creating more disengagement and hopelessness.

I like the saying "The best time to plant a tree was 30 years ago, the second best is today." Because it is almost universally true about any long term goal.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think he's right, but he's also a real asshole and lives in a mansion in Vancouver and likely creates more environmental damage than the average human

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Less people accept climate change in Canada today than 20 years ago. If we couldn’t do anything about it then, why would now be different?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

That's how I feel, like it might not be too late to do something but people just don't care. And if we don't do this together its pointless.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

David Suzuki sucks. Seen him at restaurants here in town before. Treats waitresses like shit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Saying we have failed is the easiest thing to say.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Doesn't mean it's not the truth.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Because its true?

Barely anything had been done these past decades and the result is that boat loads of people now believe conspiracy crap over the actual truth that climate change will milk us all

I fully expect that even less will be done in the next years so yeah, were screwed

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fight for climate change is not lost, it's still actively being fought by scientists, entrepreneurs, content creators, journalists and activists all over the planet.

Oil companies like this narrative of lost. It was always, don't worry we still have time until now when it's leaning towards "whoopsie too late". It's not too late, we are not all going to die because of climate change.

Right now climate change is on track to be horrible for large parts of the world but there's plenty more we can fuck up beyond that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There is also the potential for climate solutions. We have been driving things in one direction by pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. There are ways to do the opposite rapidly, just not as easy. Solar/Wind/Nuclear powered carbon sequestration and ocean fertilization are possible if all else is lost.

Happy to discuss realistic impactful solutions rather than just cycling doomerism with anyone interested.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I suggest actually doing something about it then. Direct your frustration towards something productive. Take the risk because if we don't then no one will.

Here's why your comment is horseshit:

The cost of solar photovoltaic (PV) technology dropped by 81% since 2009, and wind and battery costs have also plummeted. By 2017, most new power-generating capacity added worldwide came from renewables, not fossil fuels.

A comprehensive review of 1,500 climate policy measures across 41 countries found 63 cases of successful policies, each leading to an average emission reduction of 19%. The most effective policies combined tax and price incentives with regulations and subsidies.

Although global greenhouse gas emissions reached record highs in the 2010s, the rate of growth has slowed, in part due to climate policies and the adoption of cleaner technologies.

The Montreal Protocol (1987) successfully phased out ozone-depleting substances, demonstrating that coordinated global action can work. This agreement also had climate benefits, as many of the banned substances were potent greenhouse gases.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

I try to stay postive but we're slowly burning and yet politics has never been so aggressively stupid about this. And the warlords dictating or culture too. I don't want this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Did he fly across the world on his private jet to announce this?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Canada (and the world) will burn. You think migrants are a problem now? Wait until millions of people have no choice but to go north and the water wars start.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

the spice must flow!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

O damn, almost forgot about the water wars. Those were brutal. Before those people genuinely believed there was nothing bigger than a World War. The fools. Like if you're still here in 2125.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The water wars will start far sooner than that

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

the focus on politics, economics, and law are all destined to fail because they are based around humans. They’re designed to guide humans, but we’ve left out the foundation of our existence, which is nature, clean air, pure water, rich soil, food, and sunlight. That’s the foundation of the way we live and, when we construct legal, economic and political systems, they have to be built around protecting those very things, but they’re not.

Powerful truth!

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