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Stumbled on this story. The idea of teaching 12 year olds about "leadership" via Machiavelli gives me the willies.

The coverage I found seems to be very hyperbolic. On the other hand, it seems to me that if you got rid of all the exaggerations, this is still probably some kind of fucked up situation. I am quite ready to believe the community around this school has plenty of nazi-sympathy. It is alleging that schoolchildren were calling all jews "baby killers" because of the genocide in Gaza. It also appears somehow these children have conflated the concepts of being jewish and being israeli, which is a mainstream opinion promoted by the states of Israel and USA among others. This conflation is of course hostile when it is directed at jewish kids. Which is maybe a reason to avoid such conflations...

I read a few different articles covering the situation and I think the most info is found in this one: Posh Virginia private school that allegedly praised Hitler expelled three Jewish students who faced antisemitic bullying: complaint

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Posh Virginia private school that allegedly praised Hitler expelled three Jewish students who faced antisemitic bullying: complaint

A Northern Virginia private school celebrated as one of the best in the country allegedly expelled three Jewish siblings who endured relentless antisemitic harassment in the wake of the Oct. 7, 2023 terror attack on Israel — all while their community celebrated Hitler as a “strong historical leader.”

The Brandeis Center filed the complaint on behalf of the children’s parents, Brian Vazquez and Ashok Roy, against the Nysmith School for the Gifted, a K-8 academy located just an hour outside of Washington, DC, and its headmaster, Kenneth Nysmith.

The complaint asserts that the couple’s 11-year-old daughter faced a “campaign of ostracizing” led by a handful of “popular students” on the sole basis that she is Jewish during the 2024-2025 school year.

The students, in an apparent gross misunderstanding of the conflict, cruelly taunted the girl for the death of her uncle, telling her they were glad he “died in the October 7th attack,” according to the complaint.

Her uncle died years earlier with no relation to the terror attack.

Some students mocked her for being “Israeli” and dubbed Jews as “baby killers,” unabashedly saying that “they deserve to die because of what is happening in Gaza,” the complaint stated.

Others doubled down and insisted that “everyone at the school is against Jews and Israel, which is why they hate you,” according to the complaint.

One middle school social studies project tasked the students to sketch a child-sized drawing including “six traits of a leader” following their studies of Niccolo Machiavelli’s “The Prince,” according to an email from the Nysmith School.

The Frankenstein amalgam included weaponry associated with rulers from Machiavelli’s time and a tie typically worn by modern-day businessmen or politicians.

The drawing’s face, though, depicted a man’s face with Adolf Hitler’s unmistakable toothbrush mustache and slicked-back hair.

Vazquez and Roy reported the repeated incidents to Nysmith, who promised to take action. Weeks passed and no changes were made, according to the complaint.

If anything, all change moved swiftly away from protecting Vazquez and Roy’s daughter as the school soon thereafter cancelled its annual talk hosting a Holocaust survivor to speak with the student body about antisemitism.

Vazquez and Roy had one final meeting with Nysmith on March 11 to address how the harassment escalated ever since the school hung up a Palestinian flag in the school gym mere days after nixing the Holocaust talk.

The Palestine flag hung alongside dozens of others for different countries, including Israel. The parents didn’t take any issue with the Palestine flag being displayed, but were concerned that some students were using it to bolster their claims that “nobody likes [Jewish people],” the complaint stated.

Nysmith, having seemingly run out of patience, abruptly told the couple that their daughter should “toughen up,” the complaint stated.

Two days later, the parents received an email from the school notifying them of their children’s expulsion, effective immediately in spite of their consistent involvement with the community and exemplary grades.

“A healthy partnership is required to help guide and nurture young children through tumultuous times and complex current events. I do not see a path forward without trust, understanding, and cooperation. In our meeting, I felt very clearly that you do not think Nysmith is the right school for your family,” Nysmith wrote.

Vazquez and Roy never anticipated the expulsion and had already paid tuition for the following academic year, the complaint said.

Nysmith’s email noted that the family would receive a check in the mail within two weeks for all fees paid that year and for the following year. It is unclear if the check was ever sent.

“Through [the Nysmith School’s] actions, the administration sent a clear message: bullying is acceptable, as long as it’s against Jewish families. We must all emulate the strength of these parents and their children and stand up to anti-Semitism and its perpetrators, as difficult as it may be,” Kenneth L. Marcus, chairman of the Brandeis Center, wrote in a statement.

The complaint is seeking compensatory damages for a slew of costs such as the children’s online courses and the inclusion of annual antisemitism training for the Nysmith school community.

Nysmith rejected the allegations and asserted that the information circulating online is not complete in an email he forwarded in response to a message seeking comment from The Post, in which he also claimed he was “not aware of any legal action involving the school.”


As far as I can tell, the above image is what constitutes "praising hitler". It's the highest res picture I could find but unfortunately can't make out the writing which would probably help to understand just what these kids were thinking. It does look like a wacky hitler. Somehow at least 1 kid got the idea that hitler was a good "leader" and between the various adults who were teaching the class, emailing the newsletter etc, none of them thought better of this.

Text of actual complaint Vazquez-and-Roy-v.-Nysmith-School.-Virginia-Attorney-General-Office-of-Civil-Rights_Redacted-1.pdf, specifically the parts which relate to the above image:

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On March 13, 2025, Complainants Brian Vazquez and Ashok Roy’s three Jewish children were expelled from the Nysmith School for the Gifted because they complained about the school’s unwillingness to respond to anti-Semitic harassment of their 11-year-old daughter. The school had allowed anti-Semitism to take root in her class—in, for example, this picture of a social studies class project depicting the attributes of a “strong historical leader”:

[photo as above]

That photo, featuring the unmistakable face of Adolf Hitler, was shared with the entire school community. It was followed by a pattern of persistent and severe anti-Semitic harassment of Complainants’ young daughter.

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B. Nysmith School Permitted an Environment That Is Hostile to Jews.

  1. Sadly, however, Nysmith School allowed an environment hostile to Jewish students to take root and flourish. For example, in October 2024, Complainants’ daughter’s social studies class included a section on strong historical leaders. At the conclusion of the section, the teacher had the class collaborate on a project – creating a large drawing of a composite “strong historical leader” featuring the attributes of strong leaders the class had studied. Mr. Vazquez and Dr. Roy learned of the project only after they received the Nysmith School’s regular email inviting the community to view the latest photos of class activities on the school’s shared drive. It included the photo featuring the unmistakable face of Adolf Hitler.

  2. Mr. Vazquez and Dr. Roy were understandably disturbed that a sixth-grade history project appeared to glamorize Adolf Hitler – and that the school would share that image with the entire community. But rather than rushing to complain to Mr. Nysmith, they first discreetly spoke to other parents and carefully considered whether to complain. After considering the matter, Mr. Vazquez and Dr. Roy decided not to take action. They mistakenly assumed it was an isolated instance of poor judgment by a single teacher.


Maybe I shouldn't be posting drama from some 12 year olds.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

yes the USA is a hellhole, correct

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

The idea of teaching 12 year olds about “leadership” via Machiavelli gives me the willies.

Gotta teach kids that mercenaries can't be relied on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

My private school taught us that Machiavelli was bad (along with the entire Renaissance and the concept of humanism)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

The drama isn't from 12 year olds, it's from the abusers who think teaching kids these things is a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We need to shut down private schools until we can figure out what the fuck is going on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

We should keep them closed after that, but they should still remain closed until then too