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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

HTC released a phone this year that had expandable storage AND a headphone jack

AND it came with a charger in the box.

I gonna have to wait and see if they actually support this phone but if they do and continue to release phones like this (and ditch the curved glass screen) I would be totally down to switch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Are those features that uncommon now?

Also, I thought HTC went out of business some time ago.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, the joke in the meme is that Sony is the only "flagship" company that still has those features.

(Though calling them a flagship company might be a little generous)

As for HTC, it's possible that another company bought the rights to the name, i'm not sure. They were making VR headsets for a while, so it's possible they just backed out of the phone market and did something else.

Either way, the phone looks good, with some minor tweaks and some proper long term support it could be a serious competitor

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Nice.

Haven't noticed the features disappearing from the market. All my phones so far had them since the android rising. Guess I've been lucky.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

What phone is this? I thought they released one but no jack. I'd be interested if it has one and an unlockable bootloader.

Nevermind. Just saw your post under.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

I have a recent Xiaomi that supports 2 sim + storage and a 3.5mm jack. I'm on Redmi Note 12 (don't recommend since memory management is atrocious)

[–] [email protected] 61 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Not that I think it was a good reason for ditching them whatsoever, but one of the main reasons given has a tiny bit of merit:

Allegedly, a lot of users often cheaped out on SD cards and then used them as adopted system storage where they moved all their apps to. This had the effect of completely tanking phone performance and then they would often get corrupted after a bit of use taking user data with them. This then generated a load of negative reputation about the devices being slow and unreliable, when the problem was the choice of SD card, and generated a load of wasted money in supporting these users when that happened (think unnecessary RMAs, etc).

Personally I think they should just have restricted it to A1+ SD cards, and sucked up the people complaining about their bargain bin Scrandrisk SD not working. But I guess they saw an opportunity to have their cake and eat it by just removing it and charging a premium for larger storage skus.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago

There is a UFS-II specification and even a PCIe version specifically for micro SD cards. It was all planned out, and it would have been trivial to tell consumers: "Yo need card with more contacts as shown in picture". But no, the biggest manufacturer of flash storage is samsung, and they decided they'd rather sell higher storage capacity phones as a premium. Easy to do when you're the second biggest manufacturer of of phones and apple already paved the way.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I literally never heard or read about a user say that when using an sd card. They just took it out to charge more for more storage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's not the users saying it, it's the OEMs. Back when this was a new discussion, I at least remember Google saying this as justification for why it stopped including them in their devices after the nexus 4

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well, that was a lie to justify screwing over their users.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

I don't think it's a lie, it's objectively true that shit SD cards would have that effect on performance if used as adopted storage. But I do agree with you that it was a convenient excuse, as I wrote at the end of my original comment.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Question is rather: why does Android not allow any distinction between Internal and external/removable?

My downloaded media files belong on the SD card, but APKs, sqlite DBs and temp files don't belong there. But de facto, it's just used as an extension for internal storage. That's just stupid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

That very much isn't the case beyond like a decade+ ago. For the last decade its been not possible, or extra work to install apks on sd card. The choice is there, but it's far from default.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

How did you miss the opportunity to use scamdisk instead?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

it does, or at least older versions of Android did

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sometime around android 9 they removed a bunch of sd card related features to make you have to do the weird combine with internal storage thing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

I recently copied all my files from my SD-Card ("formatted as Internal Storage") to a safe location, then copied those files to the "Internal storage" part of the rom that opens up after the SD-Card was gone. It worked. on Android 10. Maybe that change was later. Android storage looks weird from the outside anyway. It was as if only the publically visible files Apps want you to see got on the SD-Card, and then each app has some hidden folder (that apps like termux or apps with custom-built file pickers sometimes kind of let you half-guess the structure of (my head: no details) and) that appeared to have been on the built-in rom all along. That copy operation now lets me remove my SD Card w/o moving all my Images and less than half of my apps files.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

In nature, sometimes the shittiest design is still successful

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