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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This is why people have a commuting car and a track car. Your track car is often not your commuting car

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The groceries in the passenger seat are a nice touch, because of course there's gonna be no trunk space.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Instead of a macho man forging their destiny, it is a woman, given that it is the 70s, likely a housewife, coming home from grocery shopping.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

And doing groceries or work-related is why most people drive.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As someone who has a big guilty pleasure for sports/performance cars and racing in general, this comic actually explains really well how I'm able to reconcile that with my dislike of car-centric infrastructure and wishing for better public transportation: without other means for getting around cities for people who don't care much about cars (i.e. most people), everyone will be forced to use cars for basic transport, meaning really clogged highways and traffic jams that directly affect you and your fancy sports car's enjoyment.

Conversely, if infrastructure was more accommodating for bikes, trains and buses to make them more viable, most people would use them, leaving the streets and highways freer for you to have fun driving your sports car the way it was meant to, instead of being stuck in traffic jams most of the time.

I just wish most people who are into cars realized this, instead of raving about how "they want to take away our cars!" and fellating Andrew Tate and other shitheads.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Why aren't sport cars rented instead of sold? Only place you can really use them is the race track.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lots of racetracks sell packages like this, pay $$ to take out a certain car or groups of cars. But for lots of people it's just as much about the tuning/improving of their own car as it is about the driving.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Buy and rent?

No, seriously. Guzzle more gas, prone to dangerous driving. Thus my idea to only rent them at race tracks.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Y'all pretend roads outside the city and weekends don't exist. My commute is a joy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Most people live in a city, and are therefore subject to traffic like this.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/demographic-and-economic-trends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/

Wrong. Individually Urban neighborhoods were about 100M. See what you have done is combined urban and suburban populations like it's a political map. But the suburban population of the US is 175M with rural adding 46M.

So no, most of the US, does not experience this nor do they live in a city. They probably live near a city.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Suburbs are a part of a city.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Look even expanding your scope here, only 40% of them live in early suburbs vs late and exurb. And only the early suburbs from the top 6 metropolis. The vast majority of small metropolis early suburbs look nothing like this.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Something tells me you drink and drive

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Not at all. They are assholes.

You've invented such an angry fact about me 😑.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Exactly, the comic is showing an urban driver's problem. Fortunately the USA is massive and we have many more uncrowded roads across its vast and beautiful landscape that drivers can travel freely upon. Traffic jams are rare in my area, but occasionally I visit Atlanta or some similarly large city and marvel at how much it sucks to drive in their traffic.

True freedom includes having room to breathe and roam. For those who haven't experienced it, my condolences.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As someone whose only car is a Honda S2000... yeah kinda.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do honda s2000s get that bad of gas milage? They're pretty small, lightweight cars

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (5 children)

The engine is pretty high strung so you're lucky to get 20-24 mpg. If you drive it hard (and it wants to be driven hard) it's going to be less. That's still probably better than the kind of huge muscle car in the picture, though.

The other thing is it's just not a pleasant car to drive in traffic. It's a manual transmission car (only ever made in manual) and it's really easy to stall, among other things, so it's not fun to drive through rush hour.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Ahh, gotcha. Thats a shame, my dream car is a miata which I've always wanted to daily drive, and I tend to think of the s2000 similarly since they're a lot alike in many respects

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Miatas are pretty similar, but modern ones have some nice advantages! It's rated for 25/35 mpg, for example, and unlike a lot of car makers Mazda's fuel economy numbers are pretty realistic. A Miata isn't going to be as painful to drive in traffic, either. Not unless you modify it or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

My dream car is an NA, so a bit less practical lol, but I still desperately want one

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Also the clutch doesn't require much force to engage, and 1st gear seems pretty forgiving, at least on the NDs. I can't say I enjoy driving in traffic, but it's not too bad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

It's a shame the MR2 isn't made anymore.

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