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I've seen tables flipped, tv sets punched through, furniture thrown. And that's just in the home.

How does one get to a place mentally where burning and destroying things, over a sportsball game seem a reasonable thing to do?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

After a particular sports event a number of years ago, it was noted that reports of spousal abuse increased significantly that night. This is very sad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Sports fans go BRRRRRRR

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Some people never get helped past the wall-crayon stage, but still need to express poetry no one wants.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I remember from the las football world cup about someone on internet saying that it doesen't matter who wins the final, Paris' streets will be destroyed anyway

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

It’s just an excuse to vent, it them having to fight an actual person an probably get thier ass kicked. It’s just people being basic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

there's this little human thing called emotions that you might have missed, and some people are real bad at controlling them. the reasons behind that can be varied, but often they have a stake in the game (as in they've bet on it or similar).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Because many of these people are just fucking dumb and don’t have much going in their lives. Seriously talk to an ultra fan and all they do is talk and think about their club. They have wrapped their entire lives and persona around the club. When their club loses they feel like that’s an direct attack on their own person, because the club is all they are. So because they feel attacked they have this urge to defend and lash out. Combine that with booze and cocaine and multiply that with hundreds of bozos and you have yourself a riot.

I live next to a sports bar. And many of the patrons definitely have lost a couple of screws.

Last week in my city people rioted because they couldn’t watch their precious football game. Because the cops were on strike and the mayor banned the match because of that. It’s like these people can’t find joy in anything else. Just football, booze and cocaine. Basically Bread and Circuses.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

The UK sports experience

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Sportsball is kinda a shit term - you don't have to like sports and yes society venerates it over far more important achievements/pursuits, but it's a bit childish to refer to it in that way.

My theory is that a lot of that kind of poor behaviour is generally from men who have grown up with the toxic masculinity traits of believing that sad is bad, angry is manly. I've seen people openly weep over the outcomes of a game - I think these people are feeling the same emotions but haven't been given the societal permission to express it in its true form. So they do angry instead. It's not acceptable at all but that's what I think the reason is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I think its a perfectly fine term. It applies evenly to ball-based games; football, gridiron football, rugby, basketball, hockey, cricket, baseball, etc... Y'know? Sportsball. The behaviour is similar across the fanbases.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It's also kind of childish to get offended at it, and even more childish to have your ego wrapped up in a game, especially one that you're not even playing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Meh, sportsball sucks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would go ahead recommend and not be a pompous ass who says sportsball, you are not better than others or unique because you don't like sports.

And then to answer your question I don't think it has much to do with the sport itself.

  1. i think it's the trigger not the cause.
  2. Big crowd+alcohol and other substances
  3. the crowd anonymity effect or whatever if it even has a name, if only one person in a crowd starts kicking over a trashcan and gets some cheers, it can and will quickly spread through the crowd who will start doing it and/or escalate what they do as they feel kinda safe, because they are not doing it alone. The same way when you do something you are kinda afraid to do doing it with a friend (if you had any) gives you more courage.

Or to quote Man in Black "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals, and you know it."

Think about January 6, you think if you ask then individually if it's a good idea to go to the capitol alone and overthrow try to overthrow a government and theyd probably call you stupid for the idea, but put them in a crowd where they mutually encourage each other and give each other a sense of security and they will go ahead and do it the dumb bastards.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And then to answer your question I don't think it has much to do with the sport itself.

To think of another example, I've seen a lot more violent anger in living rooms triggered by a video game than a sporting event.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I have yet to see any video game cause a riot.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

As on reddit, no one who does this is ever going to take accountability for it.(And no one who does this is going to be on Lemmy to begin with)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Alpha male behavior up there with beating your girlfriend

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Sometimes I think people forget we are animals, who have been acting civilized for a relatively short amount of time. Also, there are plenty of ways to damage our brains and increase aggression (violence, accidents, substances, etc).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

When I was a kid I would get emotionally invested in the game, hoping my team would win and gritting my teeth because they might not.

I really cannot relate to this at all anymore. I might wish for my home team to win but if they don’t play well then that’s on them, and I am not going to lose sleep either way.

I can only guess that I got caught up in the games as a kid because my whole family was into them, rooting and clapping and groaning and swearing at the refs. I was small and my brain wasn’t fully formed and I just got caught up in that culture.

It looks patently ridiculous from the outside. But I guess some people’s entire society is so into sports that they reach adulthood with this tribalism intact. It is after all a form of entertainment and people crave excitement and something to care about.

I got sick of my emotions being caught up in an arbitrary thing that might go either way. It’s the same reason I hate holding stocks. When you wake up each day and see that you gained or lost money based on arbitrary forces you can’t control, it’s like having your emotions manipulated by RNG.

Gamers know that when a game is entirely driven by RNG its bullshit not worth playing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Miserable people who put all of their happiness in a weird location such as how your city's sports team performs. That is how these clowns achieve emotional validation.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

I personally can't say why I would because I don't but I can tell you why my friends do. Its because they drink a fuck ton of alcohol, bet way more money than they can afford and get caught up in the mob mentality.

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