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I know it's been getting worse over time, but I could still find what I needed after some digging.

Recently it's been like 10 minutes of adjusting search terms, still getting completely useless or irrelevant results, and me just giving up afterwards. Other search engines seem just as bad.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Ill add something I've never really seen anyone mention: it used to be a lot better at staying on topic without ME keeping it that way

For example: this weekend I was playing Blops 3 and googled shit like "Winslow accord bo3" and after 1-3 searches I could just type shit related to bo3 and even if it had relevant pages related to other shit, it'd remember my recent searches and keep them rather relevant even if it was on my phone or a new window rather than the same search bar

At least, it used to work that way. Now every 4-5 searches it suddenly forgets what tangent I was on and I have to start adding qualifiers again to get relevant searches

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I used to a hater of Kagi but honestly its a damn good alternative search engine. They are doing some actual innovation and are very transparent. I still prefer a good searXNG instance but searxng is more for technical people who understand decentralized meta search instances. Here's my simple guide on search engine alternatives to help you get away from google best you can.

Google is finally collapsing under the weight of its own greed and lack of innovation. Now other companies are showing up to steal their lunch especial with the big monopoly case going on right now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Yes. Its AI generated slop. I use SearxNG, and I have it tuned to go to Startpage first, Google second.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

They all suck anymore. Google fell the furthest though.

And it seems like it completely disregards search modifiers like quotes or the minus sign at this point. The modifiers are overridden by the algorithms pushing preferred sites, or Google just gives few or no returns as if there are no sites featuring your search criteria, which is completely false because it’s perfectly happy to return paid sites with the same but incorrect search term.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I've started to use Qwant a few months ago when bing and duckduckgo started to give me result I had filtered out in my search. But now it is way past this stage. When I look for something I find a lot of related topic but nothing about the topic I've searched for.
I notice it was suddently become much worst about 10~15 days ago

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

all of them. the conspiracy side of me says they all want to drive traffic to the ai.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

They hired the guy the ruined Yahoo to run it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've been using Kagi since ~February and it's changed my views on Search. Beforehand, if use a combination of Google, Bing, DDG, and Brave and rarely find what I needed in satisfactory time. Now I'm typically finding it in the top 5 without all the cruft + have access to a handful of LLM assistants to choose from for other tasks (when needed).

I've also heard good things about SearXNG.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Is this how you live your life? Going around telling people how to live theirs?

Jesus christ dude. I said I'm aware.

I have specific use cases that Kagi, and nothing else that I've found but feel free to try me, satisfies to a T with speed and value.

Unlike you, I'm aware enough to realize I'm not the average consumer and that not everyone might fall into my bucket, so it was merely a suggestion ALONG WITH ANOTHER SUGGESTION (SearXNG). I'll leave it up to the reader to do their own tests and see if it suits their needs.

I guarantee something you eat came from Nestle somehow and that something you own or wear was made on the backs of a sweatshop of some sort. Quit with your holier-than-thou bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yes, it’s fantastic!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It took me. 12 minutes of clicking through websites yesterday to get the heat and time settings for making potato chips in the air fryer. I used to be able to just ask the Google Assistant.

I'm glad I saw this post cuz I was going to gaslighting myself over the whole thing. It really is getting way worse, isn't it....

What search engine alternatives do y'all use?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Duck duck go

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