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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Sooo... switch to Perl then? ๐Ÿ˜œ

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Of course! Why didn't I think about that? Maybe I could also switch some other parts of the code to Lisp?

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

S-s-s

S-s-s

S-s-s

S-s-s-sure!

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[โ€“] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Some people think that because Python is the easiest language to learn, it's going to be easy to learn programming with Python. But learning programming is still very hard, so many abstract concepts to grasp. Python just makes it a tiny less hard, almost insignificantly now that we can use an LLM to learn the syntax faster than than ever.

[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (3 children)

In practice, Python is not easy to learn programming with. Not at all. I see beginners wrestling with Anaconda and Jupyter notebooks and I weep.

The fact that pip is intentionally broken on macOS and some modern Linux distros sure doesn't help. Everything about environment management is insane.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Development environment is a mess, but given its popularity, it's not difficult to find an up to date tutorial. Then it is the easiest I think, you will be able to try programming basics and get a minimum viable product (small web app, small analytics...) easlier than with any other language.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Comparing python env management to Ruby or rust or even Java for fucks sake just goes to show that nobody actually cares about how easy a language is to use, they just care about what is popular or what they think is popular.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (6 children)

It's also important to note that you might come out ahead in learning those abstract concepts using a harder language.

But my first language was Pascal. from a book stolen from my dad's library. Then C++. I still wouldn't call myself anything other than an amateur.... I mean, my dad can do more with one line of C than most programmers can do in their entire career. (he really shouldn't. but he does. Calls it "job security".)

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