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There have been so many "breakthroughs" from eating beets to this new mushroom coffee for all kinds of miracle remedies. Is there any benefit at all and why can't you make it your self by pulverizing dried mushrooms of the same variety they use into powder and making the coffee yourself?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Did it come out of the States?

If so, guaranteed utter fucking horseshit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just drink Lion's Mane tea, probably much cheaper

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I got a bag of lion's mane powder that I sprinkle in dishes I prepare. Pretty much doesn't change the flavor of anything and you get all the mental benefits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I've never heard of this so yes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Every other month they start some trend to sell you shit... you would think people learned by now but here we are.

Single super food aint saving your ass from a shit diet!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Is (insert heavily marketed product here) just a fad?

Yes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

for me, it is a craze because the food is not tested enough for its marketed effects.

sure, many other people also claim to feel its benefits but the numbers just ain't enough, for me at least.

then again, not all people are the same. you can give it a shot for science. nothing wrong with trying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Most plants and really most foods in general have some sort of effect other than calories, at least for individuals that may not have a fully complete diet.

Additionally there are more and more studies about phytochemicals, which appear to have a lot of potentially healthful properties.

Humans are hard to rest though so basically, just eat healthy. Eat a lot of plants and reduce animal products (maybe, this is a contentious recommendation) and mostly just don't eat processed food if you can.

Even white rice and white potatoes are "healthy" in the right quantities and ratios.

Not really want you asked, but if you are curious "eating on the wild side" by Joe Robinson is a great book that talks about phytochemicals and how to pick vegetables that might be more "healthy".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Well, it's just a company trying to hype their product, so definitely craze territory.

There is some good stuff in shrooms as others have already covered, and most of that will be present in a broth made from them. So it isn't totally bullshit. But it also isn't coffee in any way at all.

As far as making it into a power yourself, you likely wouldn't get the same results since drying the damn things, then processing them is not exactly a learning curveless thing. Definitely doable, just takes some effort to get nailed. I used to do it to add flavor to stuff without having the actual pieces of mushroom present, since the texture is offputting to a decent number of people I have cooked for. Not worth the effort imo, but maybe if you've been recommended to have a specific mushroom by your doctor, it would be worth it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Mushroom coffee? Isn't that just a soup?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Is there any benefit at all

Maybe! There's at least some scientific evidence that chemical compounds in mushrooms can have medicinal effects.

Bias disclaimer: I put a lion's mane mushroom tincture in my morning tea because it may have a neuroprotective effect (source). My father's father had dementia, my father is currently in a home with profound dementia, the chances it's going to happen to me are very high. It'll be years before I know whether lion's mane mushroom will do anything for me (and even then you couldn't claim anything from one data point), but I'm willing to try anything as long as it's affordable and has at least some plausible evidence behind it. This isn't the only thing I'm doing of course, I've also overhauled my diet (MIND diet) and lost 30 pounds (obesity is correlated with dementia).

why can’t you make it your self by pulverizing dried mushrooms of the same variety they use into powder and making the coffee yourself?

You absolutely could. Or, you know, just eat some of the same mushrooms. The benefit to dried products like Ryze, or tinctures like the one I use, are that they're convenient, easily transportable and self-stable. I've cooked up fresh lion's mane mushrooms several times, but not super often because they're not in many stores in my area and tend to be pricey for the amount you get. I've also grown my own from a kit but that takes significant time and a little bit of daily attention to maintain optimal growing conditions. The tincture is convenient and relatively affordable as far as daily supplements go.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is no such thing as a superfood. it's all bullshit.

Like the Acacia berry stuff. not only are the levels of good-stuff in them comprable to other berries (Like strawberries, blackberries, blueberries, gooseberries. Basically it's the same as, like, all berries.) you're importing them from central america which means they're not fresh, they're processed, and they've lost a lot of that good stuff by the time it gets to you.

So yes. anyone telling you that "XYZ" is a superfood? bullshit. That simple. It's just powdered mushrooms ("Adaptogenic mushrooms" whatever that means. looking at the ingredients list, it seems to just be common food shrooms.). While, yes, mushrooms are healthy, and can be delicious, There's nothing inherently special about this product. ("they" say it has antinfamitory and other of the typical dribble the natural-remedy crowd says of like... everything.... If there's an effect it's probably like "meh.")

Personally, eating actual mushrooms seems more... uhm. palatable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I eat a ton of different mushrooms, living in the PNW, there's so much variety. My favorite is definitely fresh lobster in the fall. The only one with effects I can definitely detect is lion's mane. It has a great effect on my long covid brain fog, assisting greatly with lifting that fog. Otherwise, I just love the flavor of mushrooms. Had some fresh chantrelles in an omelette my partner made this morning. So yum (they're very woody).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

will a doctor prescribe it? no? then its probably bs or illegal 😉

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why would a doctor prescribe an alternative to coffee or tea in the first place though?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i meant more in a generalised sense herbal this and that supplements etc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Doctors in the US never ever prescribe herbs or supplements. On rare occasions when you have a legitimate vitamin deficiency, verified by blood work, they will prescribe medical grade vitamin tablets, from a pharmacy that has actually tested the vitamin content of the product. Vitamin D deficiency is quite common, and while rare, scurvy (vitamin C deficiency) can happen if someone is malnourished.

My doctor has told me on more that one occasion that herbal supplements are completely unregulated, many don't contain even a bit of the claimed herb, and sometimes have legitimately harmful plants mixed in, as if someone just gathered a bunch of weeds, dried and ground them up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's pretty tasty, to me at least. But I like mushrooms so YMMV. That said, it's not overly earthy or eating a bag of shrooms. If you ever, as a kid, saw a tin that said Hersheys on it in the cupboard and grabbed a spoon; well, it's like that, but a little better. The cocoa in it is what gives you the caffeine bump IIRC. Assuming the ingredients are legit, then there is good stuff in it, but I think this is really geared toward another group of people than anyone trying to curb coffee. If it was cheaper, I'd drink it every day.

To answer the question, sorta, you could grind a batch of lions mane and chaga and have at it. This has other stuff in it to for palatability, but like you said, you could make your own variety if you want. Again, assuming the ingredients are accurate, it would be good for you, as long as you can manage to choke it down.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mushroom soup kinda slaps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah but that has seasoning and broth and shit. But just the juice from ground up mushrooms seeped in water? Nah for me.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, cold cream of mushroom soup or nothing!

I like sucking it through my teeth to separate the mushroom bits like a baleen whale.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Whered you hear about it from? The only actual other big coffee/tea variant I'm aware of is yerba maté. Mushroom coffee sounds like nightmare fuel

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

RYZE Mushroom tea is all over my social media feeds.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All that advertising makes me immediately avoid those kinds of products.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

ESPECIALLY on Facebook.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I drink a brewed chocolate drink. It is ground beans like coffee, and brewed similarly.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Just fucking drink tea if coffee creeps you out.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or drink what makes you happy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I can't guzzle tequila all day tho :(