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[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Everyone's gonna starve

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The landlord would sure prefer option 2.

The meth head neighbor fighting with the scary guy who is always mean mugging people, the shoddy repairs and maintenance done to the lowest standards, the ever increasing rent even though the building is paid off…

We have plenty of space, we just need an economy that allows people to afford a single family home. A sfh can be built with nature in mind… the earth has plenty of room for 10 billion people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

An apartment building doesn't have to mean renters. Condos are a thing that exists...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

And apartment buildings aren't the only high density options available. Half the issue is just the bans on subdivisions and requirements for minimum parking, lawn setbacks, etc.

There is a great deal of difference in density between these options:

I can understand not wanting to live in a multi story apartment building. But for those people, some percentage of them would still be ok with one of the first two images here. We don't all have to go with the third one if we want something more independent.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (5 children)

So um, why are the houses and nature mutually exclusive? I live in a suburban detached single family home, and my whole neighborhood is filled with trees, wildlife and even a tree lined creek that separates the back yards on my street from the back yards on the opposite side. You can't even see my actual yard from google maps because it's nearly entirely covered by tree canopy (at 6pm in summer my yard is 100% shaded). We have all sorts of wildlife including deer, foxes, owls, frogs, mallards, rabbits, squirrels, etc.

While I agree that we do need more housing options of all sorts, I don't for a second agree that nature and suburban housing are mutually exclusive. We just need to stop tearing down all the trees when we build, and plan better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

why

Well, you could count the trees on the right and find a way to fit them in between the houses on the left.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Density zoning is the source of the housing crisis.

People think it's market forces that have created the housing crisis, but it is exactly the opposite: government ha been artificially restricting supply for decades.

There are so many places where 100 units is a more profitable use of land than 10 units, but it's prevented by density zoning.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The people who have the most wealth and power over the markets are the very same people who bribe / lobby/ donate to politicians to write the zoning laws that contribute to the housing crisis.

Consider this, you are a wealthy property developer. Are you going to lobby the government to do things to bring down the cost of housing? Fuck no. You're going to do the opposite. The more expensive housing is the more money you make.

People need to realize the US only pretends to be a democracy. We get to pick which individuals get to sell us out to the lobbyists and donors and without fail both parties put on a big show of political theater but then meet with lobbyists in private and sell us out. A democratic republic if only democratic if the elected reps represent the will of the people, which they don't.

I would even argue that a two party system is deeply undemocratic and that we will never be a real democracy until we adopt a multiparty system, ban super PAC donations, and ban paid lobbyists.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

First one. I've lived in condos and I will do anything to always live in a house now. It's the literal reason we sold a condo to buy a house.

Life has been much better ever since.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

As stated lower down in the thread, there are more options than just suburban sprawl and tight apartment buildings.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Let me guess, the walls seemed "paper thin"? That is very easily fixed by basic sound proofing and insulating shared walls. Or by using brick or concrete. I lived in an apartment with 3 other guys that had brick walls and I could scarcely hear anyone. It was amazing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Try convincing land-leeches to do anything but the bare minimum cheapest option and you'll be out on the street in no time.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If the place you are in is already built poorly, then the it is neither "very easily" or cheaply fixed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

But the conversation is implicitly about how we should be building going forward.

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