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I did a search from shitjustworks for "reddit die" and did not find https://lemmy.world/c/watchredditdie so I made https://sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie (unnecessarily). This should really not happen. When someone makes a community there should be a "ping" sent out to notify all other federated instances.

And from what I know, if I post to !sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie only users on sh.itjust.works will see the posts until other people from other instances randomly come across it somehow and subscribe? This really needs to be improved.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm surprised there was no issue filed for this already, maybe I just failed to find it, but I made a new issue

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4412

if anyone wants to give it a thumbs up reaction then the devs will know to prioritize it, and if you have any ideas you could leave a comment there

Edit: that was somewhat a duplicate of this issue

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2951

Give that one a thumbs up

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's the issue federation for lemmy have. I'm from a very small instance and my "All" feed only shows just a fraction of community from those big instance. If i need more community post showing i need to manually request federation for each and every community. It's not too big of an issue if you're from big instance as people will likely look for more community to subscribe, but for small instance it will be barren most of the time if no one try to look for new community using external browser, which makes people migrate to bigger instance, and defeat the purpose of having multiple instance.

Though i must say, manually federating is quite fast these day, i remember last year i have to keep refreshing for it to shows, and it take hours for the content to federate. The dev surely do magic.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For small instances, admins can use tools like https://github.com/Fmstrat/lcs to subscribe to most of the active communities.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The community you're trying to subscribe to only has one post, and I believe that post may predate your instance spinning up.

It's not really a good example of federation on Lemmy, because it doesn't have content to federate.

Even your ping idea wouldn't have worked here

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Yes. Lemmy is deep in "good enough" territory. It mostly works for most people, much of the time. But if you stray outside of the main use cases, you're gonna be disappointed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The number of subscribers being completely different depending on which instance you search from is really weird/bad too IMO.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

that was fixed, I think in v0.19.0, but your instance hasn't updated yet

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is fixed in version 0.19.3, hopefully your instance will update soon

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This. I want to be able to see every community of every instance i‘m federated with with post and sub count. Thats a laughable amount of data. This would boost subscriptions by insane amounts.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lemmyverse.net show both communities: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=watchreddit

It probably didn't show up in the first place it only has 66 subscribers, and probably none on SJW.

About your second point, you indeed have to promote your community, using [email protected], or related communities. This works quite well usually.

I will add that in your case, people knew about your community as you posted in other communities, but as discussed then, people seemed happy with the existing Reddit-focused communities.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (5 children)

This works quite well usually.

I definitely don't agree. I think this is very problematic. I rely on all to find new communities. I don't think one newcommunities sub is a valid replacement. It would suffer from the same issue -- people would have to spam their post to every single instances's newcommunities sub, which is ridiculous and not even viable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Lemmy is pretty centralized in practice and people are on Lemmy.world, mostly.

It's like hotmail or gmail. Default choice.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Relying on !all to have your newly created community to reach most of the people could work, but using the Scaled sort as it wouldn't have enough subscribers to push it using Hot or Active.

There is only one [email protected], it has 15k subscribers, seems like a pretty good way to promote it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected], [email protected]

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